From: jmfbahciv on
Cheryl wrote:
> jmfbahciv wrote:
>> Cheryl wrote:
>>> jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> What is wrong is forcing the entire populace to go through
>>>> a jetlag twice a year. Their driving is more dangerous
>>>> and productivity falls until each person has adjusted his/her
>>>> internal time clock. Congress has been passing laws
>>>> about truckers getting enough sleep. OTOH, they pass clock
>>>> resetting laws which causes everybody to not get enough sleep.
>>>> What's wrong is that it's dangerous and unhealthy.
>>>
>>> What's stopping people from going to bed an hour earlier that night?
>>
>> We're talking about resetting the biological cycle. People, essentially
>> do go to bed an hour earlier (or later) depending on the clock switch.
>> That changes the biology.
>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, that only works for one direction. The other time, everyone
>>> gets an extra hour of sleep, and therefore should be more rested and
>>> less likely to have accidents.
>>>
>>
>> Wrong. An hour extra, from the usual habit, creates a hangover.
>>
>> /BAH
>
> I've never noticed an hour either way making much difference. I must
> have an adjustable biological cycle.
>
You're lucky. A plane flight from one side of a time zone, west,
to the other, affected me. Times were the same but the sunlight
was different.

/BAH
From: Adam Funk on
On 2010-02-25, Trond Engen wrote:

> Evan Kirshenbaum:
>
>> R H Draney <dadoctah(a)spamcop.net> writes:
>>
>>> BrE filted:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:04:21 GMT, the Omrud
>>>> <usenet.omrud(a)gEXPUNGEmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What happens when the Messiah does arrive? Is there some sort of
>>>>> central switch which can be pushed to update all the rabbis?
>>>>
>>>> They will all be gathered together in the Promised Land. Jesus of
>>>> Nazareth will arrive and will address them: "Right then, let just
>>>> try again. Pay careful attention...".
>>>
>>> Oh great...the Prince of Peace brought PowerPoint slides....r
>>
>> And the Church will say "Damn! We'd add them to the canon, but we
>> finalized it 1,700 years ago."
>
> "... and those old Canon projectors can't take power point slides."


Oh, that's good.


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From: jmfbahciv on
PaulJK wrote:
> Mike Barnes wrote:
>> PaulJK <paul.kriha(a)paradise.net.nz>:
>>> Brian M. Scott wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:19:21 +1300, PaulJK
>>>>
>>>>> I would prefer if every 24 hour day was made longer by one
>>>>> hour, i.e. 25 hours long. [...]
>>>> I'm not sure that 25 hours would be quite long enough.
>>> I agree, it wouldn't. I just didn't want to sound like some kind
>>> of an extremist. 28 was mentioned by some other posters.
>>> That would do me rather well. Yes, 28, that would be perfect.
>> Four extra hours in a day, but about twelve fewer years in a life. Are
>> you sure?
>
> When I freewheel I still need only 7-8 hour sleep.
>
> I am sure. In 20 active hours/day I could accomplish 25% more
> in my life. Or enjoy things I like doing for 25% longer. I wouldn't
> care about the number of years, if I could have 25% more
> awake time in life.

I used to solve my really pesky problems by dreaming the solution,
or workaround. Sleeping is useful.

/BAH
From: Cheryl on
jmfbahciv wrote:
> Cheryl wrote:
>> jmfbahciv wrote:
>>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>> jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> What is wrong is forcing the entire populace to go through
>>>>> a jetlag twice a year. Their driving is more dangerous
>>>>> and productivity falls until each person has adjusted his/her
>>>>> internal time clock. Congress has been passing laws
>>>>> about truckers getting enough sleep. OTOH, they pass clock
>>>>> resetting laws which causes everybody to not get enough sleep.
>>>>> What's wrong is that it's dangerous and unhealthy.
>>>>
>>>> What's stopping people from going to bed an hour earlier that night?
>>>
>>> We're talking about resetting the biological cycle. People, essentially
>>> do go to bed an hour earlier (or later) depending on the clock switch.
>>> That changes the biology.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, that only works for one direction. The other time, everyone
>>>> gets an extra hour of sleep, and therefore should be more rested and
>>>> less likely to have accidents.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wrong. An hour extra, from the usual habit, creates a hangover.
>>>
>>> /BAH
>>
>> I've never noticed an hour either way making much difference. I must
>> have an adjustable biological cycle.
>>
> You're lucky. A plane flight from one side of a time zone, west,
> to the other, affected me. Times were the same but the sunlight
> was different.
>
> /BAH

I notice the change going, say from North America to Europe, or from one
end of Canada to another, but recover in a day or so. I stay up as close
to my natural bedtime in the new time zone as possible, get a good
nights sleep, and I'm functioning more or less normally. Going the other
way - east to west - is dead easy for me. All I really notice is the
tiredness natural from being shut up in a noisy shaking tube for hours
on end.

I don't even notice a single hour's change, and certainly nothing less
than that.

Cheryl

--
Cheryl
From: Peter T. Daniels on
On Feb 25, 8:44 pm, Robert Bannister <robb...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Feb 23, 8:12 pm, Robert Bannister <robb...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> Adam Funk wrote:
> >>> On 2010-02-23, Ant nio Marques wrote:

> >>>> "Roman Catholic" ISN'T AN OFFICIAL SELF-DESIGNATION. ANYWHERE.
> >>> Are you going to write to all the churches in the UK with "St ____'s
> >>> Roman Catholic Church" or "St ____'s R. C. Church" on their signs,
> >>> newsletters, websites, etc., to tell them that they are wrong?  (I
> >>> think this is common in much of the USA too.)
> >> I won't try to claim such signs don't exist, but I don't remember ever
> >> seeing one. The only way I can tell a church is RC is by the
> >> architecture and usually by the name (saint I've never heard of or
> >> long-winded way of saying Mary).
>
> > Do you only visit villages so small that they have only one church, or
> > so homogeneous that they only have a sprinkling of Protestant churches?
>
> I don't see what you are getting at. The only churches I notice that
> actually stipulate their denomination on their own signs are the ones
> that are neither Anglican nor Catholic. The latter appear to assume that
> anyone interested will know, and usually, they are right. As I said
> above, I won't try to claim that no "Roman Catholic" or "Church of
> England" signs exist - just that I haven't noticed them in the same way
> I notice Lutheran or whatever.

It's the Episcopalians who put up signs at the intersections for
blocks around guiding passersby to their church -- with, of course,
their familiar insignia.

Do try to remember that we have no state religion -- there is no such
thing as an "unmarked" (in the technical linguistic sense) church here.