From: Cecil Knutson on
Stephen, here is the output of lsmod:

Module Size Used by
binfmt_misc 7560 1
radeon 118720 2
drm 65288 3 radeon
agpgart 28808 1 drm
ppdev 6468 0
lp 8164 0
ipv6 235396 20
speedstep_lib 4516 0
cpufreq_stats 3776 0
cpufreq_powersave 1856 0
cpufreq_ondemand 6476 0
cpufreq_userspace 3172 0
cpufreq_conservative 5960 0
freq_table 4224 2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand
loop 12748 0
snd_intel8x0 26268 0
snd_seq_dummy 2660 0
snd_ca0106 27584 3
snd_seq_oss 24992 0
snd_seq_midi 5728 0
snd_rawmidi 18496 2 snd_ca0106,snd_seq_midi
parport_pc 22500 1
parport 30988 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
snd_ac97_codec 88452 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_ca0106
snd_seq_midi_event 6432 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_pcm_oss 32800 0
snd_mixer_oss 12320 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq 41456 6
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm 62660 5
snd_intel8x0,snd_ca0106,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
ac97_bus 1728 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 17800 3 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_seq_device 6380 5
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
i2c_i801 7920 0
i2c_core 19828 1 i2c_i801
snd 45636 15
snd_intel8x0,snd_ca0106,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
pcspkr 2432 0
rng_core 3940 0
soundcore 6368 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 7816 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ca0106,snd_pcm
usblp 10592 0
button 6096 0
dcdbas 6272 0
evdev 8000 3
ext3 105576 5
jbd 39476 1 ext3
mbcache 7108 1 ext3
sd_mod 22200 7
ide_cd_mod 27684 0
cdrom 30176 1 ide_cd_mod
ahci 23596 0
ata_generic 4676 0
ata_piix 14180 6
libata 140448 3 ahci,ata_generic,ata_piix
scsi_mod 129548 2 sd_mod,libata
dock 8304 1 libata
usbhid 35904 0
hid 33184 1 usbhid
ff_memless 4392 1 usbhid
floppy 47716 0
piix 6568 0 [permanent]
ide_pci_generic 3908 0 [permanent]
ide_core 96168 3 ide_cd_mod,piix,ide_pci_generic
ehci_hcd 28428 0
uhci_hcd 18672 0
usbcore 118192 5 usblp,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
tg3 84676 0
thermal 15228 0
processor 32576 1 thermal
fan 4196 0
thermal_sys 10856 3 thermal,processor,fan

Sorry about the cc, I wasn't sure my response would go to the list too, so
I cc'd to the list. This is being sent to the list only.
This machine is a Dell Dimension 8400/Dual-core PIV/3.0GHz/4GB RAM/SATA
controller. The sound card is a Creative Sound Blaster Live 24-bit with a
Creative CA0106-DAT chip on it(which explains the Default Mixer Device
listing), Model SD0410 . I don't know where the Intel ICH6-IEC958 comes
from, there is no chip on the MB with that designation. There might be, a
chip with a heat sink has heat sink compound on it and can't be read and I
don't want to rub it off. It is usually the sister to the Intel 82801FR
chip. Do they have something to do with sound? This machine does have an
internal modem, but I didn't remember to see the model/brand while I had
the case open. I see snd_pcm under snd_page_alloc above, is that what
you're looking for?



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From: Cecil Knutson on
Stephen, here is the output of lsmod:

Module Size Used by
binfmt_misc 7560 1
radeon 118720 2
drm 65288 3 radeon
agpgart 28808 1 drm
ppdev 6468 0
lp 8164 0
ipv6 235396 20
speedstep_lib 4516 0
cpufreq_stats 3776 0
cpufreq_powersave 1856 0
cpufreq_ondemand 6476 0
cpufreq_userspace 3172 0
cpufreq_conservative 5960 0
freq_table 4224 2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand
loop 12748 0
snd_intel8x0 26268 0
snd_seq_dummy 2660 0
snd_ca0106 27584 3
snd_seq_oss 24992 0
snd_seq_midi 5728 0
snd_rawmidi 18496 2 snd_ca0106,snd_seq_midi
parport_pc 22500 1
parport 30988 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
snd_ac97_codec 88452 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_ca0106
snd_seq_midi_event 6432 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_pcm_oss 32800 0
snd_mixer_oss 12320 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq 41456 6
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm 62660 5
snd_intel8x0,snd_ca0106,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
ac97_bus 1728 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 17800 3 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_seq_device 6380 5
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
i2c_i801 7920 0
i2c_core 19828 1 i2c_i801
snd 45636 15
snd_intel8x0,snd_ca0106,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
pcspkr 2432 0
rng_core 3940 0
soundcore 6368 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 7816 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ca0106,snd_pcm
usblp 10592 0
button 6096 0
dcdbas 6272 0
evdev 8000 3
ext3 105576 5
jbd 39476 1 ext3
mbcache 7108 1 ext3
sd_mod 22200 7
ide_cd_mod 27684 0
cdrom 30176 1 ide_cd_mod
ahci 23596 0
ata_generic 4676 0
ata_piix 14180 6
libata 140448 3 ahci,ata_generic,ata_piix
scsi_mod 129548 2 sd_mod,libata
dock 8304 1 libata
usbhid 35904 0
hid 33184 1 usbhid
ff_memless 4392 1 usbhid
floppy 47716 0
piix 6568 0 [permanent]
ide_pci_generic 3908 0 [permanent]
ide_core 96168 3 ide_cd_mod,piix,ide_pci_generic
ehci_hcd 28428 0
uhci_hcd 18672 0
usbcore 118192 5 usblp,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
tg3 84676 0
thermal 15228 0
processor 32576 1 thermal
fan 4196 0
thermal_sys 10856 3 thermal,processor,fan

Sorry about the cc, I wasn't sure my response would go to the list too, so
I cc'd to the list. This is being sent to the list only.
This machine is a Dell Dimension 8400/Dual-core PIV/3.0GHz/4GB RAM/SATA
controller. The sound card is a Creative Sound Blaster Live 24-bit with a
Creative CA0106-DAT chip on it(which explains the Default Mixer Device
listing), Model SD0410 . I don't know where the Intel ICH6-IEC958 comes
from, there is no chip on the MB with that designation. There might be, a
chip with a heat sink has heat sink compound on it and can't be read and I
don't want to rub it off. It is usually the sister to the Intel 82801FR
chip. Do they have something to do with sound? This machine does have an
internal modem, but I didn't remember to see the model/brand while I had
the case open. I see snd_pcm under snd_page_alloc above, is that what
you're looking for?

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From: Stephen Powell on
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:03:27 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
Stephen, here is the output of lsmod:
>
> Module Size Used by
> binfmt_misc 7560 1
> radeon 118720 2
> drm 65288 3 radeon
> agpgart 28808 1 drm
> ppdev 6468 0
> lp 8164 0
> ipv6 235396 20
> speedstep_lib 4516 0
> cpufreq_stats 3776 0
> cpufreq_powersave 1856 0
> cpufreq_ondemand 6476 0
> cpufreq_userspace 3172 0
> cpufreq_conservative 5960 0
> freq_table 4224 2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand
> loop 12748 0
> snd_intel8x0 26268 0
> snd_seq_dummy 2660 0
> snd_ca0106 27584 3
> snd_seq_oss 24992 0
> snd_seq_midi 5728 0
> snd_rawmidi 18496 2 snd_ca0106,snd_seq_midi
> parport_pc 22500 1
> parport 30988 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
> snd_ac97_codec 88452 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_ca0106
> snd_seq_midi_event 6432 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
> snd_pcm_oss 32800 0
> snd_mixer_oss 12320 1 snd_pcm_oss
> snd_seq 41456 6
> snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
> snd_pcm 62660 5
> snd_intel8x0,snd_ca0106,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
> ac97_bus 1728 1 snd_ac97_codec
> snd_timer 17800 3 snd_seq,snd_pcm
> snd_seq_device 6380 5
> snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
> i2c_i801 7920 0
> i2c_core 19828 1 i2c_i801
> snd 45636 15
> snd_intel8x0,snd_ca0106,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,
> snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
> pcspkr 2432 0
> rng_core 3940 0
> soundcore 6368 1 snd
> snd_page_alloc 7816 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ca0106,snd_pcm
> usblp 10592 0
> button 6096 0
> dcdbas 6272 0
> evdev 8000 3
> ext3 105576 5
> jbd 39476 1 ext3
> mbcache 7108 1 ext3
> sd_mod 22200 7
> ide_cd_mod 27684 0
> cdrom 30176 1 ide_cd_mod
> ahci 23596 0
> ata_generic 4676 0
> ata_piix 14180 6
> libata 140448 3 ahci,ata_generic,ata_piix
> scsi_mod 129548 2 sd_mod,libata
> dock 8304 1 libata
> usbhid 35904 0
> hid 33184 1 usbhid
> ff_memless 4392 1 usbhid
> floppy 47716 0
> piix 6568 0 [permanent]
> ide_pci_generic 3908 0 [permanent]
> ide_core 96168 3 ide_cd_mod,piix,ide_pci_generic
> ehci_hcd 28428 0
> uhci_hcd 18672 0
> usbcore 118192 5 usblp,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
> tg3 84676 0
> thermal 15228 0
> processor 32576 1 thermal
> fan 4196 0
> thermal_sys 10856 3 thermal,processor,fan
>
> Sorry about the cc, I wasn't sure my response would go to the list too, so
> I cc'd to the list. This is being sent to the list only.
>
> This machine is a Dell Dimension 8400/Dual-core PIV/3.0GHz/4GB RAM/SATA
> controller. The sound card is a Creative Sound Blaster Live 24-bit with a
> Creative CA0106-DAT chip on it(which explains the Default Mixer Device
> listing), Model SD0410 . I don't know where the Intel ICH6-IEC958 comes
> from, there is no chip on the MB with that designation. There might be, a
> chip with a heat sink has heat sink compound on it and can't be read and I
> don't want to rub it off. It is usually the sister to the Intel 82801FR
> chip. Do they have something to do with sound? This machine does have an
> internal modem, but I didn't remember to see the model/brand while I had
> the case open. I see snd_pcm under snd_page_alloc above, is that what
> you're looking for?

No, that's not what I'm looking for. snd_pcm is a generic kernel module
for handling wave audio. But it needs a specific sound card driver
to talk to. I'm talking about the column labels in alsamixer.

Something is puzzling me about the output of lsmod. Two of the loaded
modules, snd_intel8x0 and snd_ca0106, appear to be primary sound card
drivers. But you only have one sound card, right? I checked the aliases
of the two modules to see if there were any that were the same, but they
don't seem to have any aliases in common. Hmm...

Please provide the following additional information:

1. The output of lspci

2. *All* the column names in alsamixer for the playback view.
Invoke alsamixer. Look in the
top left corner of the screen. It should have four labels: Card, Chip,
View, and Item. For example, on my Dell Dimension 4400 it says:

Card: SBLive! Value [CT4780]
Chip: TriTech TR28602
View: Playback
Item: Master

The value in the first three lines: card, chip, and view, will stay the
same as you move from column to column, but the value in the fourth line,
item, will change as you move from column to column. (You move from
column to column by pressing the left and right arrow keys.) When you
first invoke alsamixer, you are on the far left column, which is usually
labeled "Master". Write down that column label. Then press the right
arrow key once. The cursored column will change and the value in the
"Item" field will change too. Write that column name down. The value
underneath the column may be abbreviated for space reasons, but the value
in the "Item" field at the top of the screen will contain the full-length
name. When the cursored column reaches the right-hand column and you press
the right arrow key again, the screen will scroll, revealing a new column.
Keep doing this and writing down column names until you can't scroll
right anymore. Then send me the list of names. As an example, here
are the column names for my SBLive! Value [CT4780] card with the
TriTech TR28602 chip:

Master
Headphone LFE
Headphone 1
Headphone Center 1
Tone
Bass
Treble
PCM <--- This is what I was talking about!
Surround
Center
LFE
Synth
Wave
Wave Center
Wave LFE
Wave Surround
Line
Line LiveDrive
Line2 LiveDrive 1
CD
Mic
Mic Boost
Mic Select
Video
Phone
IEC958 Coaxial
IEC958 LiveDrive
IEC958 Optical Raw
IEC958 TTL
PC Speaker
Aux
AC97
External Amplifier
SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack

These are only the labels for the Playback view. I haven't
listed the labels that appear only in the Capture view.

Send the values listed for "Card" and "Chip" as well.


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From: Cecil Knutson on
dimension8400:/home/cecil# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82925X/XE Memory Controller Hub
(rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82925X/XE PCI Express Root Port (rev
04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family)
PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family)
PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d3)
00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation
82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC
Interface Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FR/FRW (ICH6R/ICH6RW) SATA
Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus
Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon
X300 (PCIE)]
01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE]
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751
Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
04:00.0 Modem: Intel Corporation FA82537EP 56K V.92 Data/Fax Modem PCI
(rev 04)
04:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS

Alsamixer: card: CA0106; Chip: (blank); View: [Playback]; Item: IEC958
Columns from left to right: IEC958, IEC958 C, IEC958 F, IEC958 R, IEC958
U, Analog C, Analog F, Analog R, Analog S, Capture.
Sheesh! there are many more columns in your instance than mine.

Yes, There is only one sound card, the Creative Sound Blaster Live. So,
why are there two listings for "Multimedia Audio Controller"?

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From: Stephen Powell on
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:11:05 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote:
>
> dimension8400:/home/cecil# lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82925X/XE Memory Controller Hub
> (rev 04)
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82925X/XE PCI Express Root Port (rev
> 04)
> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family)
> PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
> 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family)
> PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
> Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03)
> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
> Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03)
> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
> Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03)
> 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
> Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03)
> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
> Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d3)
> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation
> 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC
> Interface Bridge (rev 03)
> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
> Family) IDE Controller (rev 03)
> 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FR/FRW (ICH6R/ICH6RW) SATA
> Controller (rev 03)
> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus
> Controller (rev 03)
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon
> X300 (PCIE)]
> 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE]
> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751
> Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
> 04:00.0 Modem: Intel Corporation FA82537EP 56K V.92 Data/Fax Modem PCI
> (rev 04)
> 04:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
>
> Alsamixer: card: CA0106; Chip: (blank); View: [Playback]; Item: IEC958
> Columns from left to right: IEC958, IEC958 C, IEC958 F, IEC958 R, IEC958
> U, Analog C, Analog F, Analog R, Analog S, Capture.
> Sheesh! there are many more columns in your instance than mine.
>
> Yes, There is only one sound card, the Creative Sound Blaster Live. So,
> why are there two listings for "Multimedia Audio Controller"?

Hmm...

I'm wondering if the Intel sound chip is intended to support
the Intel "winmodem". (You've seen my rant against winmodems
already; so you know how I feel about them.) And maybe that is
confusing Linux. Let's try blacklisting the snd_intel8x0 kernel
module and see what happens. Follow the instructions for
blacklisting given in my web page. Then shutdown and reboot.
Then try alsamixer again and see if you have more columns. In
particular, we need to see a column labeled PCM or there is no hope
for sound.


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