From: Cecil Knutson on 25 Feb 2010 02:00 Stephen, Excuse me, I did not complete the assignment last time, alsa-utils and cdtool are both installed. They are shown in Synaptic as being installed and, when I issued the dpkg-query command for them, they were identified just as was alsa-base. I didn't realize that separate commands were needed, so it looked like alsa-utils was not installed. No, there are no audio jacks on the system other than those on the sound adapter card. The card is connected to the front headphone jack by an internal cable, which is the only other audio jack on the system. The adapter card was with the system when I got it. I did not get this system new, but from a recycling service, so I don't know what was originally packaged with the system. FYI: there are four jacks on the card: mic/digital-out (blue), out 1 (green), out 2 (black), out 3 (yellow). I can remove the heat-sink of the unidentified chip, wipe off the conductive cream and see if it is a sound chip, if you so desire, although I have seen many systems come through the recycling service and not one had a sound chip with a heat-sink on it. Since the unit is identified in lspci as an 82801 family and that is the number of the chipset, it makes sense that it is integrated into the chipset, but I don't know for sure. I'll see if I can find out at the Intel site if the 82801 family integrates sound into the chipset. Yes, it does: Intel HD audio Technology and Intel AC97 Technology. So, why didn't setting all the "Devices" categories in the Sound Preferences dialog window to "CA0106" work? I tried that along with setting them all to Alsa, Autodetect, and ICH958. Hmmm. Now there is no ICH958 choice in the various device selections. What do you think? I also noted that there are four "CA0106" choices in Sound Events, Music and Movies, and Sound Playback, doe it matter which of the four is chosen? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.u8n748w5do2va7(a)dimension8400
From: Stephen Powell on 25 Feb 2010 10:00 On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:54:34 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote: > > Stephen, > Excuse me, I did not complete the assignment last time, alsa-utils and > cdtool are both installed. They are shown in Synaptic as being installed > and, when I issued the dpkg-query command for them, they were identified > just as was alsa-base. I didn't realize that separate commands were > needed, so it looked like alsa-utils was not installed. OK, good. > No, there are no audio jacks on the system other than those on the sound > adapter card. The card is connected to the front headphone jack by an > internal cable, which is the only other audio jack on the system. Strange. This Intel chip appears to be a full-function audio chip. But with no way to get data into or out of it, it's useless. > The adapter card was with the system when I got it. I did not get this > system new, but from a recycling service, so I don't know what was > originally packaged with the system. FYI: there are four jacks on the card: > mic/digital-out (blue), out 1 (green), out 2 (black), out 3 (yellow). OK > I can remove the heat-sink of the unidentified chip, wipe off the > conductive cream and see if it is a sound chip, if you so desire, although > I have seen many systems come through the recycling service and not one > had a sound chip with a heat-sink on it. Since the unit is identified in > lspci as an 82801 family and that is the number of the chipset, it makes > sense that it is integrated into the chipset, but I don't know for sure. > I'll see if I can find out at the Intel site if the 82801 family > integrates sound into the chipset. Yes, it does: Intel HD audio > Technology and Intel AC97 Technology. No, don't remove the heat sink. So they integrated a sound chip into the chipset but then didn't provide any way to access it. Very strange. What a waste. > So, why didn't setting all the > "Devices" categories in the Sound Preferences dialog window to "CA0106" > work? I tried that along with setting them all to Alsa, Autodetect, and > ICH958. Again, you've got to walk before you can run. I know you want to get sound working on the desktop. That's your ultimate goal. But first we have to get sound working at all. Let's concentrate on that. > Hmmm. Now there is no ICH958 choice in the various device > selections. What do you think? That's because you blacklisted the driver for it. That's good. > I also noted that there are four "CA0106" > choices in Sound Events, Music and Movies, and Sound Playback, does it > matter which of the four is chosen? Walk first, then run. Never mind the desktop for right now. Did you install the firmware package that I suggested in another post? Make sure that alsa-firmware-loaders is installed. This is in "contrib"; so make sure that non-free and contrib are listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. See http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm for a sample /etc/apt/sources.list file. It's at the end of "Step 1". Then run aptitude update aptitude install alsa-firmware-loaders Then shutdown and reboot. Then run dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils Then shutdown and reboot again. Then run alsamixer and check out the column names to see if PCM has shown up. (All these commands except alsamixer must be run as root.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1246722230.15017971267109642273.JavaMail.root(a)md01.wow.synacor.com
From: Cecil Knutson on 25 Feb 2010 22:00 Stephen, Aptitude was updated; the alsa-firmware-loaders installed; dpkg reconfigured alsa base and alsa utils; no PCM in alsamixer. I don't remember saying this before, so excuse me if it is being repeated, when I had Ubuntu 9.10 installed, there were two times that the sound worked after I had tweaked some configuration dialog window. But that was only in separate sessions on separate days; booting the next day each time, there was no sound again. If I remember correctly, one of those times involved installing Flash Player 10 and updating Opera to the new plug-in. I don't recall if I had played any audio CD then. But something was done that made sound work, if only for a short while. That would make me conclude that the hardware is sufficient. Would you agree? Of course, then I knew nothing about alsa-mixer and cannot confirm that any PCM was listed anywhere. What would you suggest doing now? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.u8prqplvdo2va7(a)dimension8400
From: Cecil Knutson on 26 Feb 2010 04:20 Florian, Sorry it took so long for me to realize I did not respond to your last email. Here are the outputs of amixer and aplay. dimension8400:/home/cecil# amixer Simple mixer control 'Line in',0 Capabilities: cvolume Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Capture 0 - 255 Front Left: Capture 207 [81%] [0.00dB] Front Right: Capture 207 [81%] [0.00dB] Simple mixer control 'Mic',0 Capabilities: cvolume Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Capture 0 - 255 Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [-99999.99dB] Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [-99999.99dB] Simple mixer control 'Phone',0 Capabilities: cvolume Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Capture 0 - 255 Front Left: Capture 207 [81%] [0.00dB] Front Right: Capture 207 [81%] [0.00dB] Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Center/LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Mono: Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Front',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Mono: Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Rear',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Mono: Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Unknown',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Mono: Front Left: Playback 247 [97%] [10.00dB] Front Right: Playback 247 [97%] [10.00dB] Simple mixer control 'Aux',0 Capabilities: cvolume Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Capture 0 - 255 Front Left: Capture 207 [81%] [0.00dB] Front Right: Capture 207 [81%] [0.00dB] Simple mixer control 'Analog Center/LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Mono: Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Simple mixer control 'Analog Front',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Mono: Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Simple mixer control 'Analog Rear',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Mono: Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Simple mixer control 'Analog Side',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Mono: Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Simple mixer control 'Analog Source',0 Capabilities: cenum Items: 'Phone' 'Mic' 'Line in' 'Aux' Item0: 'Line in' Simple mixer control 'CAPTURE feedback',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Mono: Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [12.00dB] Simple mixer control 'Digital Source',0 Capabilities: cenum Items: 'IEC958 out' 'i2s mixer out' 'IEC958 in' 'i2s in' 'AC97 in' 'SRC out' Item0: 'i2s in' Simple mixer control 'Shared Mic/Line in',0 Capabilities: cenum Items: 'Line in' 'Mic in' Item0: 'Line in' dimension8400:/home/cecil# aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 0: ca0106 [CA0106] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 1: ca0106 [CA0106] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 2: ca0106 [CA0106] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 3: ca0106 [CA0106] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.u8p9evv8do2va7(a)dimension8400
From: Stephen Powell on 26 Feb 2010 06:20
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:55:27 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote: > aptitude was updated; the alsa-firmware-loaders installed; dpkg > reconfigured alsa base and alsa utils; no PCM in alsamixer. > ... > What would you suggest doing now? I'm afraid I'm stumped, Cecil. I've never seen this before. Every sound chip I've ever used had a PCM device in alsamixer. What happens when you try to play a .wav file using the aplay command? Do you get any error messages? At this point, the only thing I can suggest is to install Squeeze instead of Lenny and hope that the problem is fixed with newer drivers. Lenny is getting a bit long in the tooth. It was frozen in August of 2008. But then again, if your sound card is significantly older than that ... Maybe someone else on the list has some more ideas. I've run out. Sorry I couldn't help you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1575328091.15233041267182995691.JavaMail.root(a)md01.wow.synacor.com |