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From: Cecil Knutson on 1 Mar 2010 21:40 John, > The standard pc partition scheme allows either four primary partitions > or three primaries and one extended. This limitation is imposed by the > scheme, not by Windows or Linux. An extended partition can contain any > number of logical partitions but Linux can only address a total of 63 > partitions. Stephen is right: I have run fdisk for years on innumerable computers and never saw provision for the creation of more than one primary partition. So I am speaking of experience with probably the only partitioner in common usage. I have used and am familiar with Partition Magic, so I know there are other schemes available, but we were addressing the capabilities of the partitioners used in the Windows installation CD/DVD and the Lenny CD/DVDs. Besides that, how would the partitions beyond 23 be addressed by any Windows or Linux machine, especially if you have several USB drive ports and one or more CD/DVD drives? And what system would anyone have that could handle more than 26 drives? Wow! just think of having 63 1.5TB drives! Oooola. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.u8w5hxkedo2va7(a)dimension8400
From: Stephen Powell on 1 Mar 2010 22:00 On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:38:41 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> In that case, are you sure I can't talk you into trying a newer kernel >> from backports? > > Sure, you can talk me into it, if you will also talk me through it. It is > another procedure that is completely new to me. A similar procedure is covered on my web site, http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm. On that web page, I talk about installing the Adobe Flash Player from backports.org. It's under the heading "Web Browsing". Follow the procedure for installing flashplugin-nonfree, except that the package name will change from flashplugin-nonfree to the name of the kernel you want to install. I'm sorry, but I don't remember if you have a 32-bit machine or a 64-bit machine. I'm guessing that you have a 32-bit machine and that your kernel version is 2.6.26-2-686. (You can verify that by issuing the command "uname -r".) If that is the case, the equivalent package name you want from backports is linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.2-686. Substitute that name instead of flashplugin-nonfree in the "aptitude -t lenny-backports install ..." command. Start the procedure with the second paragraph under "Web Browsing", which starts with "The final compromise ...". > Stephen Powell wrote: >> Or you can try installing Linux on one of those other machines, with or >> without wiping Windows. > > I found out that another machine does have SATA controllers, so it would > be the obvious choice for just swapping the HD out of the Dimension 8400. > Does that make sense? Yes, but if you install the hard drive in another machine I would recommend a re-install from scratch, with a format of the Linux partitions. Too many things are changing at once. Also, there is sometimes a "hidden partition" on the hard drive with machine-specific stuff on it. You might check your hardware documentation to see if there is a special procedure for replacing the hard drive that involves copying a system partition or something like that. > Stephen Powell wrote: >> Or you can break down, crack that wallet open, and buy a sound card, not >> knowing if it will work either. If you buy one, buy an old one that >> isn't driven by the driver that doesn't work for your sound card or the >> blacklisted one. > Already found someone who has a bedroom full of salvaged computer parts. > My brother will see if he has one or two sound cards. That's an option too. So you have a decision to make. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1102998457.16060461267498756641.JavaMail.root(a)md01.wow.synacor.com
From: John Hasler on 1 Mar 2010 23:30 Cecil Knutson writes: > I have run fdisk for years on innumerable computers and never saw > provision for the creation of more than one primary partition. So I > am speaking of experience with probably the only partitioner in common > usage. I have used and am familiar with Partition Magic, so I know > there are other schemes available, but we were addressing the > capabilities of the partitioners used in the Windows installation > CD/DVD and the Lenny CD/DVDs. I have been installing Debian with multiple primary partitions since Buzz. > Besides that, how would the partitions beyond 23 be addressed by any > ... Linux machine, Partitions are numbered. > ...especially if you have several USB drive ports and one or more > CD/DVD drives? And what system would anyone have that could handle > more than 26 drives? Wow! just think of having 63 1.5TB drives! You confound partitions and drives. A partition is a subdivision of a drive. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87eik3e573.fsf(a)thumper.dhh.gt.org
From: Cecil Knutson on 2 Mar 2010 01:30 John, > I have been installing Debian with multiple primary partitions since > Buzz. It was never a question of Debian creating more than one primary partition. I've known that since Potato. >> Besides that, how would the partitions beyond 23 be addressed by any >> ... Linux machine, > > Partitions are numbered. Cool. But how are the mount points handled with that many partitions? > You confound partitions and drives. A partition is a subdivision of a > drive. No, I am fully aware of the difference, have been for years, just getting off on the thought of having that many drives in one box, and the news that Linux can address 63 partitions. I haven't seen any MB's with that many controllers but the future is not here yet. 63! I may just have to try the HD in the Dimension 8400 in the Fujitsu machine I have to see if Lenny will configure all its components, including the on-board sound chip. If it works, I would be tempted to put Lenny on the 1.5TB drive instead of the 160GB drive it is on now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.u8xf6pdedo2va7(a)dimension8400
From: Tony Nelson on 2 Mar 2010 13:40
On 10-03-02 01:26:39, Cecil Knutson wrote: ... > ...and the news that Linux can address 63 partitions. ... ... Modern kernels use SCSI emulation for ATA and are restricted to 16 partitions per drive, so don't go wild here. (LVM is not affected.) The reduced limit has been a problem for some Fedora users. -- ____________________________________________________________________ TonyN.:' <mailto:tonynelson(a)georgeanelson.com> ' <http://www.georgeanelson.com/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1267554131.7509.1(a)localhost.localdomain |