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From: Cecil Knutson on 19 Feb 2010 05:10 How would I find out if something else is wrong with the installation? I've gone through the "Testing" section of your page to no avail. Alsamixer on this machine does not have any settings for CD, FM, nor DSP. It has IEC958 C,F,R; Analog C,F,R,S and Capture. I set them all for 100% and unmuted IEC958. Still no sound out of any of the ports. I saw nothing in the syslog about sound errors or failures, but I didn't see any alsa starting. May have missed it. I installed the Gnome sounds, rebooted, opened Preferences-Sound; selected System Sounds, clicked on "Play"...no sound. I haven't configured Alsa for PCM software mixing as I didn't get any sound after the Gnome configuration. Would it help? Oh, yeah...the selection in "Default Mixer Tracks" is CA0106(Alsa mixer), if it makes any difference. FYI: I started computer life on a 10 MHz Intel 8088 IBM clone running DOS 3.xx on a 20MB HD; didn't start using Windows until someone gave me Windows for Work Groups 3.11 and found it not to my liking and pretty much stuck to the command line and separate programs until I got to the point of having to run more than one program at a time and Windows 95 came along. In between that a friend gave me an AT&T 386 machine with Unix on it, but absolutely no instructions, so I was lost as to what to do with it and ended up reformatting the HD and installing DOS. I don't like GUIs (I prefer words and drop-down menus to icons) but do like the multiple running programs (DesqView I did like). I would prefer an OS written in Assembly language, no GUI, but multi-tasking capable. Linux seemed to fit the bill except for being written in C, but I have not found any reference that gave me the information I needed to run programs outside of X. I loved Midnight Commander, but where is it now? I found it again in Kubuntu 8.10 but that was the last time. I started using Linux with Debian Potato and loved it, but never got a printer working nor the USB modem I wanted to use, so I was stuck with Windows. The whole story is too much for the list. -- "There are two infinities: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the former." --Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.u8dcybojdo2va7(a)dimension8400
From: Jochen Schulz on 19 Feb 2010 06:30 (Sorry, cannot comment on your sound issues.) Cecil Knutson: > > [â¦] but I have not > found any reference that gave me the information I needed to run programs > outside of X. Just Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in, start your program. > I loved Midnight Commander, but where is it now? In the Debian archive. :) Just 'aptitude install mc' and you'll get it. J. -- As a child I pulled the legs from a spider. [Agree] [Disagree] <http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html>
From: Celejar on 19 Feb 2010 09:10 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:04:49 -0800 "Cecil Knutson" <cecil(a)qwestoffice.net> wrote: .... > running programs (DesqView I did like). I would prefer an OS written in > Assembly language, no GUI, but multi-tasking capable. Linux seemed to fit "MikeOS is an operating system for x86 PCs, written in assembly language. It is a learning tool to show how simple OSes work, with well-commented code and extensive documentation." http://mikeos.berlios.de/ Don't know how featureful it is, and whether it supports multi-tasking. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100219090750.30301f56.celejar(a)gmail.com
From: peasthope on 19 Feb 2010 11:10 Cecil, Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:04:49 -0800, > I don't like GUIs (I > prefer words and drop-down menus to icons) but do like the multiple > running programs (DesqView I did like). I would prefer an OS written in > Assembly language, no GUI, but multi-tasking capable. You might find NO or A2 helpful. "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebottle_OS" Regards, ... Peter E. -- Google "pathology workshop" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056403.33226.32177.(a)cantor.invalid
From: Stephen Powell on 19 Feb 2010 15:10
I am subscribed to the list; so all e-mails sent to the list are forwarded to me. There is no need to CC me. Doing so gives me two copies. On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 05:04:49 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote: > How would I find out if something else is wrong with the installation? I really don't know. I've just never seen epiphany or iceweasel hang as you describe, especially on such an innocuous site as http://www.debian.org. Is your PC fairly new? Lenny became the stable release in February of 2009, and it was frozen in August of 2008. If your hardware is fairly new then Lenny might not have drivers new enough. You might need to try Squeeze, the current testing release. > I've gone through the "Testing" section of your page to no avail. > Alsamixer on this machine does not have any settings for CD, FM, nor DSP. That's not necessarily a problem. CD is for traditional analog CD playback. Hardware vendors tend to skimp. They may expect you to play CDs using the "ripping" method, which involves reading the audio CD as digital data and sending it to the PCM device. FM is for FM synthesis. Many newer machines don't have an FM synthesizer. They may have a wavetable synthesizer or they may expect you to do MIDI synthesis in software, using something like timidity. DSP is for a digital signal processor. The DSP is usually there to support an internal "winmodem". Many newer machines have no internal modem. > It has IEC958 C,F,R; Analog C,F,R,S and Capture. I set them all for 100% > and unmuted IEC958. No PCM device? That's a problem. No PCM, no sound. It's got to have a PCM device. > Still no sound out of any of the ports. I saw > nothing in the syslog about sound errors or failures, but I didn't see any > alsa starting. May have missed it. I installed the Gnome sounds, > rebooted, opened Preferences-Sound; selected System Sounds, clicked on > "Play"...no sound. You've got to walk before you can run. Never mind GNOME system sounds for now. Go back and check alsamixer again. If there's no PCM device, in alsamixer there's no hope. Output of "lsmod" would be useful. Please provide that. Normally, the PCI hot-plug system will identify the sound chip and load the appropriate kernel module. We need to check to see if it's loaded. > I haven't configured Alsa for PCM software mixing as I > didn't get any sound after the Gnome configuration. Would it help? Oh, > yeah...the selection in "Default Mixer Tracks" is CA0106(Alsa mixer), if > it makes any difference. Again, you've got to crawl first, then walk, then run. Let's hold off on that. Step 1 is to provide the output of lsmod. Let's make sure that an appropriate kernel sound module is loaded. Also, it would help if you would provide, as specifically as possible, the Make and model of your computer, the make and model of your soundcard, and especially, the audio chipset(s) used on your sound card. I know you provided some info in your initial post, but please try to include all of that info in the follow-up post. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/249252527.13699861266609657748.JavaMail.root(a)md01.wow.synacor.com |