From: Stavros Spanos - www.orbit.gr on 25 Sep 2006 23:02 > Phil, > > Is it really necessary to drag someone's business matters into a > discussion like this? We don't discuss your latest contracts in public > and I don't think its relevant anyhow. > Well Geoff, I guess it is... So we know things as they really are! A large project for us is 4K (and not 250K...) and yet we find it decent to pay 1k/year (-free products given) to finance (in a periodic basis) VO's & Vulcan's development. The ones who don't, should better THANK those who subscribe to "club thingy" as they finance the development of the tool they use with less cost... As about Marketing... Thanks to all of those nice posts, all of you do your best to make VO attractive to new customers. Stavros
From: Jamal on 25 Sep 2006 23:44 You self-appointed yourself to speard a smear campaine. What you're doing is exactly evil in disguise, you just do NOT know it Have you asked yourself, why you're doing this evil? You're just obessed with this NG, you probaly drink and dream day and night about the next evil post. A successfull VO and Vulcan is not what you wish to happen because it will most likely drive you insane. All of your investment in spreading false and nagative information will self destruct. I wish you could come to senses and act in a civilized manner. Jamal "Graham McKechnie" <gmknospam(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:_T_Rg.36156$rP1.9056(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > >> I only blame you and Graham for all this. > > Oh sure Jamal, Geoff and I have screwed it all up for you. What a load of > drivel. > > What sort of stuff are you on!!! > > > "Jamal" <vodotnet_NoSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:_GZRg.9321$Wi1.942(a)trnddc06... >>> Evil doers? <ROFL> >> >> I truely mean that! It's not a laughing matter anymore. >> >>> Just shrug off the discussion and move on. < >> >> Those were not discussions. They were venmous personal and public >> attacks. >> >> I only blame you and Graham for all this. You have contributed to this >> mess! I do not know what your problems are, you repeated your points time >> and time again, and everyone heard by now out loud, but yet you continue >> this vicouse assault. I did not have a problem with you or Graham, >> neither Brian, nor Don, and certainely not this NG. Just grow up! >> >> Jamal >> >> "Geoff Schaller" <geoff(a)xxxsoftwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message >> news:45185de4(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... >>> Evil doers? <ROFL> >>> >>> Where do you guys get off with the over-emotive language. You realise of >>> course that when you respond with such ridiculous words that it destroys >>> any credibility in your point of view. We all wanted Brian to take VO >>> away from CA - I was one of the architects of persuasion - not a key >>> player by any means but one of them. The problem is what has ensued >>> since. If you can't understand the frustrations and sense of loss being >>> felt by many, many people then I question your bona fides in this >>> discussion. >>> >>> Just shrug off the discussion and move on. >>> >>> I don't think there is any need to comment in your way as much as your >>> express disappointment at Craig. >>> >>> Geoff >>> >>> >>> "Jamal" <vodotnet_NoSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:XmWRg.3527$Vk4.2900(a)trnddc01: >>> >>>> Don, >>>> >>>> There is no doubt that some on this NG have lost it all due to the >>>> constant >>>> barrage of negative posts by the evil doers who have turned this NG >>>> into >>>> what is right now, a tool to spread their evil hate, smear campaign and >>>> agenda. It's really a shame! >>>> >>>> Without Grafx and Brian's commitment to VO, it would have been dead >>>> long >>>> time ago. Without VOPS and the support of "real professionals" in the >>>> VO >>>> community there would be no VO 2.8 and there would be no Vulcan. VOPS >>>> has >>>> proven to be a real value to me and the produts that I sell and >>>> support. >>>> This is why I will continue my support of Grafx undeterred by the >>>> barking of >>>> the evil doers who have nothing else to do. >>>> >>>> Jamal >>> >> >> > >
From: Geoff Schaller on 26 Sep 2006 02:53 Oh boy... you've got problems! ....and it's not me. "Jamal" <vodotnet_NoSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:im1Sg.9834$Wi1.4968(a)trnddc06: > You self-appointed yourself to speard a smear campaine. What you're doing is > exactly evil in disguise, you just do NOT know it Have you asked yourself, > why you're doing this evil? You're just obessed with this NG, you probaly > drink and dream day and night about the next evil post. A successfull VO > and Vulcan is not what you wish to happen because it will most likely drive > you insane. All of your investment in spreading false and nagative > information will self destruct. I wish you could come to senses and act in a > civilized manner. > > Jamal
From: Jamal on 26 Sep 2006 03:11 > ...and it's not me. < Self-Denial at its best! "Geoff Schaller" <geoff(a)xxxsoftwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message news:4518ce6e$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > Oh boy... you've got problems! > ...and it's not me. > > > "Jamal" <vodotnet_NoSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:im1Sg.9834$Wi1.4968(a)trnddc06: > >> You self-appointed yourself to speard a smear campaine. What you're doing >> is >> exactly evil in disguise, you just do NOT know it Have you asked >> yourself, >> why you're doing this evil? You're just obessed with this NG, you probaly >> drink and dream day and night about the next evil post. A successfull VO >> and Vulcan is not what you wish to happen because it will most likely >> drive >> you insane. All of your investment in spreading false and nagative >> information will self destruct. I wish you could come to senses and act >> in a >> civilized manner. >> >> Jamal >
From: Graham McKechnie on 26 Sep 2006 03:21
Geoff, They'll be carting him off strapped up in a jacket if this keeps up. Maybe its the first 4 letters of his address Graham "Geoff Schaller" <geoff(a)xxxsoftwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message news:4518ce6e$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > Oh boy... you've got problems! > ...and it's not me. > > > "Jamal" <vodotnet_NoSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:im1Sg.9834$Wi1.4968(a)trnddc06: > >> You self-appointed yourself to speard a smear campaine. What you're doing >> is >> exactly evil in disguise, you just do NOT know it Have you asked >> yourself, >> why you're doing this evil? You're just obessed with this NG, you probaly >> drink and dream day and night about the next evil post. A successfull VO >> and Vulcan is not what you wish to happen because it will most likely >> drive >> you insane. All of your investment in spreading false and nagative >> information will self destruct. I wish you could come to senses and act >> in a >> civilized manner. >> >> Jamal > |