Vulcan .Net and VO 2.8 - yeah right....
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From: Graham McKechnie on 26 Sep 2006 05:52 Geoff, Bizzare, weird - what has evil got to do with this forum - goodness knows what he is on or who he is hanging out with, but it appears a touch bent. Paul D B - that was an amazing piece - not that I understood a word of it. Graham "Geoff Schaller" <geoff(a)xxxsoftwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message news:4518f0bf$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > But all this talk of "evil" ? > > It's bizarre. > > > > > > "Graham McKechnie" <gmknospam(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote in message > news:xx4Sg.36305$rP1.7574(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au: > >> Geoff, >> >> They'll be carting him off strapped up in a jacket if this keeps up. >> Maybe >> its the first 4 letters of his address >> >> Graham >
From: Graham McKechnie on 26 Sep 2006 05:59 Phil, >> I use VO every day.... So it must be you that has written those millions of lines then Phil. Perhaps you should get the prize for the busiest guy on the planet. >>most of my staff do not though. Well at least you have smart staff. Graham "Sherlock" <sherlock(a)sherlock.com.au> wrote in message news:1159260625.628949.42690(a)k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Geoff > > snip[ You continue to profess such little use of VO these days I am > wondering why > you joined the fray. Did you have some other agenda in mind? ] > > I use VO every day.... most of my staff do not though. > > Phil > ---- >
From: Markus Feser on 26 Sep 2006 06:03 did you all took drugs and did you all realize, that you _realy_ can't taken serious after that? *shaking the head*
From: Geoff Schaller on 26 Sep 2006 06:20 Gee Phil, thanks for the lesson on Ajax. I don't know what I'd do without you putting us all straight like that. ....but all I hear is the sound of someone shovelling... digging themselves deeper and deeper.... "Sherlock" <sherlock(a)sherlock.com.au> wrote in message news:1159263442.390656.144800(a)m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com: > Geoff. > > snip[ So you are now predicting the end of VO with this release? That > is very sad to hear. Did Brian authorise you to say this? I think you > have just effectively put the nail in the VO coffin for quite a few > more people if we now know that there is to be no progression beyond > 2.8 - a sad day for VO. So folks, you heard it here. VO is officially > dead with VO 2.8 and we have Uncle Phil as proof. ] > > You say .NET is the way forward.. and I am sure Grafx sees this as > their future tooo based on a VO langauge dialetic in a .NET world. > > If VO has enough paying clients by sales or subscription you may see > more work.. but like everything it has to pass the commercial test. > > Snip[ Well, go enjoy your Ajax Phil, you obviously are moving out of VO > > yourself. ] > > You are very ignorant to some very good technology that is just > booming. AJAX satands for "Asychronous Java and XML". This is a > client and server side technology for websites/ intranent that allows > webpages to not require the traditional refilling when something is > changed. It works like windows in that say a combo box is selected and > this requires a refill then only this control is updated. Makes the > experiece smooth and fast. For business applications this is > fantastic. > > Its relevance to Vulcan is you can use this for webdevelop as well. > > Phil McGuinness > ------------------------
From: "Marshall Rhinehart" mrhp on 26 Sep 2006 06:32
> Hello Marshall, > > Nothing is free from MS. Once they have taken over the market > completely, you will pay more for your MS products than for a VOPS. > Office products tripled in price, on the average, once WP was driven > out of the market and it hardly changed in features, only UI's. It was not my intent to say that a 'free' product would replace VO in my daily work. On the otherhand, this is the environment that Grafx has chose to compete in. In the U.S., Howard Stern is a pretty controversial radio host. He's taken is show "private", where listeners must pay to here him. They've been dissappointed with the subscription rate. But it's similar to VOPS. We can't 'hear' what's going on, so it's a tough sell that 'anything' is going on. How doe's Howard Stern get a new listener, when they must pay a subscription to 'try him out?" The same holds true for VO, as far as attracting new users, if VOPS is how the company communicates, how will growth occur? A user can 'pay' to get more information about a product (VO), or choose C#, and get all the information on the internet (AND the tool), for free. Finally, one thing has been free. The customer support on this board, offered by hundreds of loyal users, was always free. If they have so little use for the group, maybe they should hire a customer support person to start responding to questions. Grafx bit the hand that fed them, not the otherway around. Marshall |