Vulcan .Net and VO 2.8 - yeah right....
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From: Geoff Schaller on 27 Sep 2006 22:21 Jamal, > However, will all due respect, your approach is flawed. That is your opinion and it is not mine. But as you aren't explaining how you think my approach is flawed I will presume you have no better alternate to offer me. > That's not true one bit. Both had their own tracks and dev teams. It is thoroughly true, well documented and a great many people share my view. They have said so openly in this ng. The delays have been significant and it thoroughly obvious to the casual observer that VO32 did not and still does not get 50% of VOPS resources. > Who is 'We' ? My company and my employees. I don't work alone. But isn't that clear? You asked me to explain my position so that is what I am doing. > May be past for you, but who are you to speak for "Us"? I see great > ponential. At what point did I say I spoke on behalf of you? But now you raise the point, I can say I understand the feelings and motivations of some 80+ VO'ers and that is a reasonable chunk of the VO population. > You have 2757 (or later) and Robert worked very hard to bring VO to a stage > where it will be the most stable of VO that you have ever known. Soon, there > will be 2.8 Way too little and way too late. That is precisely why the VOPS population is shrinking and will continue to shrink. In fact, it has almost shrunk to the point where it is mostly Vulcan advocates and that is fine. I have no problem with this unless VOPS is held up as the driver for VO32. Because it isn't. > > it is my intention to keep pressuring GrafX for a better deal for VO32 < > ROFL!! Sorry, I don't see the humour in this. Maybe it is all a game for you... and even funny but for us it is an important commercial process and fundamental to our continuing success. If we can't achieve continued development for VO32 then we will continue to slip sideways into Dot Net. Regards, Geoff
From: Jamal on 27 Sep 2006 23:21 >> That is precisely why the VOPS population is shrinking and will continue >> to shrink. << Let me tell you somthing very clear. Your are WRONG! On the contrary it's growing. It only shrunk by one person and his company for violating the agreements. Maybe two other dropped for obvious reasons, but many more joined. Jamal
From: Geoff Schaller on 27 Sep 2006 23:32 <g> ...well now your opinion is no more credible than mine so dream on boy'o. But I will say one thing, there will be a short surge in membership late this year because everyone knows you can get Vulcan and 2.8 and one yr support for a lower price than the items separately but then let's see how many of those re-sign the following year <g>. "Jamal" <vodotnet_NoSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:DcHSg.8092$Iq5.2592(a)trndny02: > >> That is precisely why the VOPS population is shrinking and will continue > >> to shrink. << > > > Let me tell you somthing very clear. Your are WRONG! On the contrary it's > growing. > It only shrunk by one person and his company for violating the agreements. > Maybe two other dropped for obvious reasons, but many more joined. > > Jamal
From: Jamal on 28 Sep 2006 01:37 Then leave it to them to decide! They have a brain! "Geoff Schaller" <geoff(a)xxxsoftwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message news:451b424f$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > <g> ...well now your opinion is no more credible than mine so dream on > boy'o. > > But I will say one thing, there will be a short surge in membership late > this year because everyone knows you can get Vulcan and 2.8 and one yr > support for a lower price than the items separately but then let's see how > many of those re-sign the following year <g>. > > > > "Jamal" <vodotnet_NoSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:DcHSg.8092$Iq5.2592(a)trndny02: > >> >> That is precisely why the VOPS population is shrinking and will >> >> continue >> >> to shrink. << >> >> >> Let me tell you somthing very clear. Your are WRONG! On the contrary >> it's >> growing. >> It only shrunk by one person and his company for violating the >> agreements. >> Maybe two other dropped for obvious reasons, but many more joined. >> >> Jamal >
From: Paul D B on 28 Sep 2006 02:24
Geoff Schaller wrote: > Interesting bit of research. Kind of confirms what many of us have > felt was happening. And you are right, GrafX and others seem to want > to shoot the messengers rather than listen and take things on board... > > Geoff research... not really it takes only 5 minutes here: http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/ReportCard.aspx -- Paul |