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From: Mark K Bilbo on 14 Jul 2010 23:03 On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 03:10:55 -0700, Joseki wrote: > On Jul 13, 8:22 pm, Mark K Bilbo <gm...(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:52:56 -0700, Joseki wrote: >> > On Jul 13, 6:43 pm, Mark K Bilbo <gm...(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote: >> >> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:43:13 -0700, Jason wrote: >> >> > In article >> >> > <6699cd80-6bca-4280- bbf9-1a8fd6c3b...(a)d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, >> >> > Joseki <jabriol2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Jul 13, 12:36=A0pm, Mark K Bilbo <gm...(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote: >> >> >> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:54:17 -0700, Joseki wrote: >> >> >> > > On Jul 13, 9:06=A0am, martin <use...(a)etiqa.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >> > >> On 13/07/2010 13:28, Joseki wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> > On Jul 13, 8:20 am, martin<use...(a)etiqa.co.uk> =A0wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> On 13/07/2010 13:09, Joseki wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >>> Have you seen otherwise? Life from life can be >> >> >> > >> >>> demonstrated with the scientific method. With >> >> >> > >> >>> Probability, that would be a 1. seen i= >> >> >> t >> >> >> > >> >>> has been done and is still being done... But Abiogenesis >> >> >> > >> >>> just doesn't fit the math nor Scientific method. >> >> >> >> > >> >> Yet we're here. Ergo the probability of life arising from >> >> >> > >> >> non-life is exactly 1 >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> =A0 =A0 Mark L. Fergerson >> >> >> >> > >> > No it is not. A creationist, which I am not, can say a an >> >> >> > >> > old =A0man critter snap us into being and then reply: "Yet >> >> >> > >> > we're here. Ergo the probability of life arising from >> >> >> > >> > Magic is =A0exactly 1. >> >> >> >> > >> That doesn't matter, even a creationist reading the most >> >> >> > >> strict versio= >> >> >> n >> >> >> > >> of the bible has to accept abiogenesis. It's in black and >> >> >> > >> white. God picked up a handful of mud and breathed life into >> >> >> > >> it. If that doesn't qualify nothing will. >> >> >> >> > > It doesn't. read the definition for abiogenesis. Very >> >> >> > > educational. >> >> >> >> > Even by one of your own cites: >> >> >> >> > "Abiogenesis is the proposal that life emerged from >> >> >> > non-life..." >> >> >> >> I mention the particular cite due to the fact, that creationist >> >> >> will not accept this. And many evolutionist will give it the >> >> >> wrong spin. >> >> >> > I am an advocate of creation science. God creating life from >> >> > non-life would be defined as "creation". Abiogenesis is for the >> >> > most part a term that is used by evolutionists to explain how life >> >> > began on this planet. The evolutionists do NOT believe that God >> >> > played a role. For example, the primordial pond theory is a type >> >> > of abiogenesis. How a word is used is very important. The word in >> >> > question is used by evolutionists and not a word that is used in a >> >> > positive way by the advocates of creation science. >> >> >> Abiogenesis is any time life comes from non-living materials. >> >> "Creation" is abiogenesis. >> >> > Real scientists would doubt your definition and sanity. >> >> Where do you think I get my definitions? >> >> >> The only way for there to be *no* abiogenesis is for life to exist >> >> into the infinite past. >> >> > Like Matter and energy? >> >> Now, run with that thought... >> > You can think? (Applause please) Ah, ad hom... -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "Morality is doing what is right, no matter what you're told. Religion is doing what you're told, not matter what is right." - Jerry Sturdivant
From: Mark K Bilbo on 14 Jul 2010 23:04 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:21:56 -0700, Jason wrote: > In article <i1jckp$84u$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Olrik > <olrik666(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Le 2010-07-13 23:18, Jason a écrit : >> > In article<i1iujd$3k3$1(a)news.datemas.de>, "Anna >> > DeGanno"<AD(a)invalid.com> wrote: >> > >> >> "Jason"<Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >> >> news:Jason-1307101243130001(a)67-150-127-253.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> >>> >> >>> I am an advocate of creation science. God creating life from >> >>> non-life would be defined as "creation". Abiogenesis is for the >> >>> most part a term that is used by evolutionists to explain how life >> >>> began on this planet. The evolutionists do NOT believe that God >> >>> played a role. For example, the primordial pond theory is a type of >> >>> abiogenesis. How a word is used is very important. The word in >> >>> question is used by evolutionists and not a word that is used in a >> >>> positive way by the advocates of creation science. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Why do you keep calling creation a science when it isn't science. >> >> It's >> >> magical beliefs based on ancient scrolls. There is no evidence for >> >> a magical mystical fantastical creation. >> > >> > It's magical to believe that life could evolve from non-life. >> >> It's called "chemistry". That science, among others, will help you when >> you get cancer. >> >> HTH > > HTH, > Do you honestly believe that life could evolve from non-life? Life either came from non-life or life exists to the infinite past. So you insist the universe is infinitely old and life has always existed? -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "How did you hurt your back? Running away from good taste?" -- Karen Walker
From: Mark K Bilbo on 14 Jul 2010 23:04 On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:50:42 -0700, Jason wrote: > In article <4c3e38df(a)news.x-privat.org>, "Ips-Switch" > <Ips-Switch(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> "Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:Jason-1307102321560001(a)67-150-120-159.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> > Do you honestly believe that life could evolve from non-life? >> > >> > >> Yes. Why not? Why do you find it so hard to believe and accept? > > Because it does not happen by chance. Nobody said it did. -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "If the Bible proves that God exists then comic books prove the existence of Superman."
From: Joseki on 14 Jul 2010 23:13 On Jul 14, 11:04 pm, Mark K Bilbo <gm...(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote: > > Life either came from non-life or life exists to the infinite past. > > So you insist the universe is infinitely old and life has always existed? > > You can't demonstrate one or they other... heres is another Option Gazoo Farted and here we are. Hold up... you can't demonstrate that one neither.
From: Mark K Bilbo on 14 Jul 2010 23:16
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:13:16 -0700, Joseki wrote: > On Jul 14, 11:04 pm, Mark K Bilbo <gm...(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote: > > >> Life either came from non-life or life exists to the infinite past. >> >> So you insist the universe is infinitely old and life has always >> existed? >> >> >> > You can't demonstrate one or they other... heres is another Option Gazoo > Farted and here we are. Hold up... you can't demonstrate that one > neither. Jabbers, have I told you lately how tedious you are? -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "Oh honey, I have a fake laugh with your name written all over it." -- Karen Walker |