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From: Jason on 16 Jul 2010 15:12 In article <i1ps07$rkr$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Parish *~" <Parish(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > "Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > news:Jason-1507102002470001(a)67-150-123-205.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > > > > That is what lots of evolutionists believe but it does NOT mean that > > evolutionists are 100% sure that it happened that way. > > I don't know of any "evolutionist" who believes a magical invisible god > created that first life, the first living cell. > > Humans were created > > by God. They share features with apes because God also created apes. > > So what's the connection? He was limited in the genetic material to work > with? > > One > > evolutionist tried to convince me that since apes and mankind are > > similar--that means that one of mankind's ancestor was an ape-like > > creature. My response was that since many larger warm blooded animals need > > things like lungs, stomachs, veins, arteries, hearts, etc.--why not make > > them similar in those creatures. Why should God have to develop or invent > > special unique lungs, etc for mankind that were VASTLY different than > > lungs, etc. that are in larger animals. Do you see my point? > > I see your point but it doesn't mean any gods were involved since life is so > "faulty" as you must agree. The god would have had to be drunk or a sadist > to create us as he did. And Geeze.... why would a god create disease > organisms and parasites to make us suffer and die so horribly? Everything that God first created was perfect. Over the years--it has been corrupted by sin.
From: Syd on 16 Jul 2010 16:06 On Jul 16, 12:09 am, Olrik <olrik...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Le 2010-07-15 14:00, Jason a écrit : > > > > > In article<i1na3e$ps...(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Parish *~" > > <Par...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > > >> "Jason"<Ja...(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > >>news:Jason-1407101757060001(a)66-53-220-250.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com... > > >>> I believe that it is illogical to believe that mankind could have come > >>> about by chance. > > >> Yet you believe a magical invisible supernatural "god" poofed everything > >> into being despite the evidence against such a happening? That's logical to > >> you? > > > You used the "magical" in the above post. In addition to God's other > > duties, God is a scientist that is 1000 times smarter than Einstein or > > Hocking (spelling??). He created DNA. He created life on this earth. He > > created the earth and the solar system. He created everything. There was > > nothing magical about it. It has taken experts dozens of years to map the > > chromosomes. God designed the chromosomes--that's much more difficult than > > mapping the chromosomes. It's hard for me to figure out why evolutionists > > can actually believe the chromosomes came about by chance. However, they > > do beieve it. > > It's nearly impossible not to call Loki on that Jason... I dunno... It's hard to, because a lot of Christians believe silly things like he does... PDW
From: Anna DeGanno on 16 Jul 2010 23:25 "Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-1607101210250001(a)67-150-173-38.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <i1pd0n$24s$1(a)news.datemas.de>, "Anna DeGanno" <AD(a)invalid.com> > wrote: >> > For fellowship with mankind. >> >> But he/she/it doesn't "fellowship" with us. It fellowships, according to >> the bible, with angels and other heavenly "beings." What it has done in >> the >> past is murder human beings by the thousands, not fellowship with them. >> You >> need to think a little more before you reply to questions. Or perhaps >> actually read your bible cover to cover and trash the WTBTS rags and >> books. >> :) > > I disagree. There is lots of evidence in the Bible that God has fellowship > with mankind. Oh really? How and where is he being seen and communicated with? What is he saying these days and to who? And where is the proof or evidence he's showing up again and talking to people? Having dinner with them, going places with them, taking vacations with them......... ? I know of no Gods fellowshipping with man. >An example is the relationship God had with prophets, Moses, > Joseph, John (the writer of the book of Revelations) etc. I'm not talking about the Bronze Age. I'm talking about now. We live NOW, not thousands of years ago.
From: Parish *~ on 16 Jul 2010 23:31 "Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-1607101212050001(a)67-150-173-38.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <i1ps07$rkr$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Parish *~" > <Parish(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> "Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:Jason-1507102002470001(a)67-150-123-205.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> >> One >> > evolutionist tried to convince me that since apes and mankind are >> > similar--that means that one of mankind's ancestor was an ape-like >> > creature. My response was that since many larger warm blooded animals >> > need >> > things like lungs, stomachs, veins, arteries, hearts, etc.--why not >> > make >> > them similar in those creatures. Why should God have to develop or >> > invent >> > special unique lungs, etc for mankind that were VASTLY different than >> > lungs, etc. that are in larger animals. Do you see my point? >> >> I see your point but it doesn't mean any gods were involved since life is >> so >> "faulty" as you must agree. The god would have had to be drunk or a >> sadist >> to create us as he did. And Geeze.... why would a god create disease >> organisms and parasites to make us suffer and die so horribly? > > Everything that God first created was perfect. Over the years--it has been > corrupted by sin. No Jason, that's just the spewings of the WTS's GB as we both know. Nothing about it in the bible. The Adam and Eve story is pure allegory as most churches now teach. They know there was no Garden of Eden, no forbidden fruit. No talking donkeys. No sticks turning into snakes. The entire story is absurd as you would know if you had any background in biology. Going by what you said the God created the perfect diseases and parasites and DNA fragility to kill us and make mammals and birds suffer. It seems you can't accept that your God, as a creator, was worse than poor at it. -- The Parrish *~, American-American-American. * * * * * * "The Mass is the most perfect form of making money." * * * * * * * *
From: Parish *~ on 16 Jul 2010 23:33
"Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-1607101212540001(a)67-150-173-38.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article <i1prvu$rkr$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Parish *~" > <Parish(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> Why call it "creation" since you have no evidence for a magical creation >> by >> an invisible "being" you have no explanation for? A being you call GOD >> who >> is well known in the bible for murdering human beings since we evolved in >> Africa. Why not use the correct scientific term for life suddenly >> appearing? Would you be disfellowshipped for using the correct >> terminology? > > No, I would not be disfellowshipped--I just prefer to use the correct > words. You're not using the correct scientific term. You're using the theist term. -- The Parrish *~, American-American-American. * * * * * * "The Mass is the most perfect form of making money." * * * * * * * * |