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From: Anna DeGanno on 15 Jul 2010 11:49 "Olrik" <olrik666(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:i1m5s4$gtp$3(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Le 2010-07-14 23:01, Joseki a �crit : >> On Jul 14, 6:29 pm, "Anna DeGanno"<A...(a)invalid.com> wrote: >>> "Joseki"<jabriol2...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:16f351f1-604f-486b-8f4d-10c0d1ac15df(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com... >>> On Jul 13, 8:01 pm, "Anna DeGanno"<A...(a)invalid.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "Joseki"<jabriol2...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> >>>> news:4f6639b9-4b2d-404d-a1f2-36bba612e3b7(a)t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>> What you describe, is called magic. I do not believe in such thing. >>>> Mud...really... >>> >>>> We're finally getting through to you that no magical "creation" by your >>>> Jehovah ever happened no matter what BS the WTS pumps into your head 5 >>>> times >>>> a week. :) >>> >>> who are "were"? I've never did. But..oh yeah, It doesn't matter of you >>> say so it must be true..eh? >>> >>> -------------- >>> >>> Are you or are you not still a Jehovah's Witness? >> >> You know everything and everything you say must be true. So does it >> matter what I am or not? the only thing important to you is you, and >> the idiots who believe you. > > I'll take that as a "yes". You're right. He just mentioned in another post from today that he's still going to the KH. He's still a JW and he's still a creationist as are all JWs.
From: Ralph on 15 Jul 2010 12:18 On 7/15/2010 1:53 AM, Jason wrote: > In article<8a7c6vF3f4U30(a)mid.individual.net>, Mark K Bilbo > <gmail(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote: > >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:02:00 -0700, Jason wrote: >> >>> Have you ever considered that God took the necessary chemical elements >>> and combined them with each other to make life on this earth? >> >> That would be abiogenesis. > > abiogenesis usually means that it happened by chance. Really? How did you develop that idea?
From: Ralph on 15 Jul 2010 12:18 On 7/14/2010 8:55 PM, Jason wrote: > In article<kdWdnZLUPdVKzKPRnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Ralph > <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 7/14/2010 6:02 PM, Jason wrote: >>> In article<UoqdnbFKMZQ5tKPRnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Ralph >>> <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 7/13/2010 11:18 PM, Jason wrote: >>>>> In article<i1iujd$3k3$1(a)news.datemas.de>, "Anna DeGanno"<AD(a)invalid.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Jason"<Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Jason-1307101243130001(a)67-150-127-253.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am an advocate of creation science. God creating life from non-life >>>>>>> would be defined as "creation". Abiogenesis is for the most part a term >>>>>>> that is used by evolutionists to explain how life began on this planet. >>>>>>> The evolutionists do NOT believe that God played a role. For > example, the >>>>>>> primordial pond theory is a type of abiogenesis. How a word is used is >>>>>>> very important. The word in question is used by evolutionists and not a >>>>>>> word that is used in a positive way by the advocates of creation > science. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Why do you keep calling creation a science when it isn't science. It's >>>>>> magical beliefs based on ancient scrolls. There is no evidence for a >>>>>> magical mystical fantastical creation. >>>>> >>>>> It's magical to believe that life could evolve from non-life. >>>> >>>> >>>> Do you understand the very thin line that separates life from non-life. >>>> I suggest that you research the thinness of that line. >>>> >>>> It is certainly not magical to believe that common chemical elements >>>> will combine with each other. It is magical to take something that >>>> science hasn't yet found a solution and claim it is the province of a >>>> magical god. A smart man like you needs to read a little history over >>>> the last 400 years and learn just how small that box for god is getting. >>>> Folks like you keep shoehorning him into smaller and smaller boxes >>>> until....POOF..he's gone. >>> >>> Have you ever considered that God took the necessary chemical elements and >>> combined them with each other to make life on this earth? That makes much >>> more sense to me than to believe that it all happened by chance which is >>> what most evolutionists do believe. Mankind is far too complex to have >>> happened as a result of chance. >>> >>> >> >> >> If the elements combined, how can you call that chance. It would appear >> to me that those particular elements have a propensity to combine and >> that certainly isn't chance > > It makes more sense to believe that it happened by design and not by > chance. Let's say that a chemistry professor combined a dozen chemicals > in an experiment and got the exact result that he wanted to get. Let's say > that I placed those same chemicals in a sealed container and blew it up. > Do you think that I would get a successful result? I doubt it. Say what???? Don't speak in riddles.
From: Ralph on 15 Jul 2010 12:19 On 7/14/2010 8:50 PM, Jason wrote: > In article<4c3e38df(a)news.x-privat.org>, "Ips-Switch" > <Ips-Switch(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> "Jason"<Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:Jason-1307102321560001(a)67-150-120-159.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >>> Do you honestly believe that life could evolve from non-life? >>> >> >> Yes. Why not? Why do you find it so hard to believe and accept? > > Because it does not happen by chance. Right, it doesn't happen by chance.
From: spudnik on 15 Jul 2010 12:32
yeah, universes, there're only one; if at first Y** don't succeed, roll the dice, again! > > > chance of getting the right molecules in sufficient concentrations for > > > a sufficient number of trials, and so on. > > that creation of universes isn't essentially the same every time? --les ducs d'oil! http://tarpley.net --forsooth, the Queen of the quadrivium! http://wlym.com |