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From: SOB) on 1 Apr 2005 16:45 On 1 Apr 2005 10:33:41 -0800, "Michael Voytinsky" <michaelvoy(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >'Cause He works in mysterious ways. >In other words, this explanation can be used to answer any question at >all, in a very non-helpful way. I do not believe that God is going to be very helpful if you are looking for a white-beared patriarch who makes little jewish-christian children feel warm and fuzzy all over. On the other hand, I can make an argument that your brain is a quantum mechanical device and therefore participates in the Quantum Vacuum, which is where all particles come when created and go when annihilated - the source of the Universe. Being connected to such a fundamental object of creation in a quantum mechanical manner allows your brain to engage in non-deterministic activity which is extremely powerful for understanding the nature of the Universe. So if you are concerned about something and you are able to connect to the Vacuum, you will be able to obtain insights that ordinary deterministic thinking cannot produce. This is about as close as I can come to looking at the face of God as I can get. Have you ever had an intuition about how to deal with something in life that you paid attention to and it worked out for you? Did you consider that helpful at the time? Quantum Mechanics is a "mysterious" thing, but it is very real. The closer you get to the fundamental source of creation, the closer you get to God - and the more useful your brain becomes. Indulging in atheism is not helpful - in fact it is a hindrance. -- Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html "If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
From: Hector Plasmic on 1 Apr 2005 17:04 > So if you are concerned about something and you are able > to connect to the Vacuum ROFL! Yeah, you've "connected to the Vacuum [sic]" so often that it's apparently sucked your brains right out. > Quantum Mechanics is a "mysterious" thing, > but it is very real. Equivocation fallacy. Quantum mechanics is statistical, and the "objects" it describes are not like tennis balls or guitar strings, although those are often used as analogs. Nevertheless, quantum mechanics imparts useful information while "I dunno how it happened, so gods dunnit! But I dunno how they dunnit" does not. > Indulging in atheism is not helpful Atheism is not an answer; atheism is just not believing in gods. Tu toque fallacy, anyway. You're Pathetic, Silly Bobby.
From: Tom on 1 Apr 2005 17:08 "Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)" <sob(a)sob.com> wrote in message news:424dbee1.25913351(a)news-server.houston.rr.com... > On 1 Apr 2005 10:33:41 -0800, "Michael Voytinsky" > <michaelvoy(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>'Cause He works in mysterious ways. > >>In other words, this explanation can be used to answer any question at >>all, in a very non-helpful way. > > I do not believe that God is going to be very helpful if you are > looking for a white-beared patriarch who makes little jewish-christian > children feel warm and fuzzy all over. > > On the other hand, I can make an argument that your brain is a quantum > mechanical device and therefore participates in the Quantum Vacuum, > which is where all particles come when created and go when annihilated > - the source of the Universe. > > Being connected to such a fundamental object of creation in a quantum > mechanical manner allows your brain to engage in non-deterministic > activity which is extremely powerful for understanding the nature of > the Universe. > > So if you are concerned about something and you are able to connect to > the Vacuum, you will be able to obtain insights that ordinary > deterministic thinking cannot produce. > > This is about as close as I can come to looking at the face of God as > I can get. Have you ever had an intuition about how to deal with > something in life that you paid attention to and it worked out for > you? Did you consider that helpful at the time? > > Quantum Mechanics is a "mysterious" thing, but it is very real. The > closer you get to the fundamental source of creation, the closer you > get to God - and the more useful your brain becomes. > > Indulging in atheism is not helpful - in fact it is a hindrance. The close you get to the source of creation, the closer you get to the end of god.
From: Virgil on 1 Apr 2005 17:14 In article <tZudnSHvpJgT4NDfRVn-jg(a)comcast.com>, Incubus <in(a)in.net> wrote: > Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB) wrote: > > > ... Your claims are no > > better than the epistemological system you use to support them. ... > > Your system is letting you down, old boy. One fact you evidently do not know > is that atheism is not about making claims, "Atheism is characterized by an > absence of belief in the existence of gods." -- > http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/intro.html Atheism by itself may not be into making claims, but Simple Septic is inot makeing claims, and then claiming they are not claims, so as to avoid having to provide any evidence that they are not mere figments of an onverheated imagination. > > Atheist agnostics go beyond absence of belief in the existence of gods to > unabashedly deny and repudiate, on principle, religious belief in the the impossibility of gods as well as the necessity of them. > "That which Agnostics deny and repudiate, as immoral, is the contrary doctrine, that there are propositions [like those idiocies proposed by Simple Septic] which men ought to believe, without logically satisfactory evidence." -- Thomas Huxley, who coined the term 'agnostic', in "Agnosticism and Christianity" http://aleph0.clarku.edu/huxley/CE5/Agn-X.html
From: Virgil on 1 Apr 2005 17:16
In article <3vydnZPZU4LQ49DfRVn-rg(a)comcast.com>, Incubus <in(a)in.net> wrote: > Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB) wrote: > > > On 1 Apr 2005 05:50:14 -0800, "Hector Plasmic" <hec(a)hectorplasmic.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >>>>They've resettled the Tigris/Euphrates valley? > > > > > >>>Is Jerusalem in the valley? > > > > > >>You actually think their "original homeland" was in Jerusalem? :-) > > > > > > <Geez> > > Geez is all hearsay: > > http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm > > Did a historical Jesus exist? Probably, since that is the simplest explanation for things, but that in no way requires that such an historical person be anything other than human. |