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From: Virgil on 1 Apr 2005 18:58 In article <1112395896.592130.272210(a)g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Hector Plasmic" <hec(a)hectorplasmic.com> wrote: > > I seem to recall Simple Septic claiming repeatedly > > and vociferously that he has no belief in any gods. > > Ahem. In civilized discourse, we generally accept what a man says > about what he believes or does not believe, where life and property are > not involved, unless other indicators contradict it. Do you really > expect us to prove that we do not believe in gods? Fine -- right after > we get your proof that other minds actually exist, that the universe > didn't begin last Friday, and that induction's validity in the future > is ironclad. If you cannot engage in discourse, discussion is futile. I can engage in discourse with those who will also so engage, but Simple Septic is not among them.
From: SOB) on 1 Apr 2005 19:35 On 1 Apr 2005 14:04:25 -0800, "Hector Plasmic" <hec(a)hectorplasmic.com> wrote: >> So if you are concerned about something and you are able >> to connect to the Vacuum >ROFL! Yeah, you've "connected to the Vacuum [sic]" so often that it's >apparently sucked your brains right out. That's the best you can do, it is. Loser. -- Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html "If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
From: SOB) on 1 Apr 2005 19:39 On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:14:33 -0500, "Tom" <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >I don't recall whether or not anyone has shown that the initial point of the >universe requires causality "initial point"? I use the word Universe with a capital "U" to mean the totality of physical reality. Our universe is but a part of the Universe. Cf. Brian Green (op. cit.) for the latest. -- Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html "If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
From: Earle Jones on 1 Apr 2005 20:59 In article <424dbee1.25913351(a)news-server.houston.rr.com>, sob(a)sob.com (Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)) wrote: > On 1 Apr 2005 10:33:41 -0800, "Michael Voytinsky" > <michaelvoy(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >'Cause He works in mysterious ways. > > >In other words, this explanation can be used to answer any question at > >all, in a very non-helpful way. > > I do not believe that God is going to be very helpful if you are > looking for a white-beared patriarch who makes little jewish-christian > children feel warm and fuzzy all over. > > On the other hand, I can make an argument that your brain is a quantum > mechanical device and therefore participates in the Quantum Vacuum, > which is where all particles come when created and go when annihilated > - the source of the Universe. > > Being connected to such a fundamental object of creation in a quantum > mechanical manner allows your brain to engage in non-deterministic > activity which is extremely powerful for understanding the nature of > the Universe. > > So if you are concerned about something and you are able to connect to > the Vacuum, you will be able to obtain insights that ordinary > deterministic thinking cannot produce. > > This is about as close as I can come to looking at the face of God as > I can get. Have you ever had an intuition about how to deal with > something in life that you paid attention to and it worked out for > you? Did you consider that helpful at the time? > > Quantum Mechanics is a "mysterious" thing, but it is very real. The > closer you get to the fundamental source of creation, the closer you > get to God - and the more useful your brain becomes. > > Indulging in atheism is not helpful - in fact it is a hindrance. * First, I don't understand anything you have said, beginning with, "...your brain is a quantum mechanical device...". The part I don't understand most is in your last sentence. How does one "indulge in atheism"? What does it hinder? earle * "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." --George Bush Sr. (to a reporter in 1988) "I used to think the human brain was the most fascinating part of the body. Then I realized, well, look what's telling me that." -- Emo Phillips
From: Earle Jones on 1 Apr 2005 21:03
In article <424d8cf1.13129288(a)news-server.houston.rr.com>, sob(a)sob.com (Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)) wrote: > On 1 Apr 2005 08:44:25 -0800, "Hector Plasmic" <hec(a)hectorplasmic.com> > wrote: > > >Putting Capital Letters Here and There doesn't add to what you're > >saying. > > That's because you are too dull to understand the significance of > proper nouns. You would have to be educated to understand that. > > >You first claimed that your gods did nothing but exist, then > >you claimed that they also made everything else exist. These are two > >different things. > > Are they? Prove it. > > >Right nice claim you got there, but where's your reason and/or evidence > >to back it up? > > Would you RTFM, fer chrissakes. You sound like a broken record. * Alternatively, you could just answer his question. earle * WWJD? JWRTFM. * |