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From: Bear Bottoms on 2 Sep 2006 09:20 On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 07:33:06 -0500, Comodo <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> wrote: > > Bear Bottoms wrote: >> On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:10:01 -0500, Comodo <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> >> wrote: >> >> > >> . >> >> BearBottoms threatened: >> >> I'm going to install it "inside Sandboxie" and see what happens. I >> >> heard >> >> the >> >> claim v2.3.4 was released today which gives the user an option to >> >> disable >> >> Launch Pad. >> >> If it doesn't, greys out the unistall, or uses up system resources, I >> >> will >> >> delete the virtual >> >> environment and it 'WILLBEGONE'. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> I research freeware http://bearbottoms1.com >> > >> > oohhh nooo.. now you are scaring me Bearbottoms :-) >> > While you are at it, give its security features a try. For example try >> > to kill it (and try to kill sandboxie with the similar techniques and >> > see which one will resist ;-)) and try the leak tests. We are serious >> > about security! >> > >> > Melih >> > >> Er, Sandboxie is not a "background" running program. Tee hee. It would >> be funny if I started the program, and while surfing in the virtual >> environment...a virus snuck in and terminated the program. Awesome. >> >> Your scaring me Melih. Keep your day job. BTW, you can terminate >> Launch >> Pad by right clicking on the program icon and choosing not to launch the >> launch pad at startup. 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 poof. >> >> >> -- >> I research freeware http://bearbottoms1.com > > BearBottom > > Please... Sandboxie is a sandbox product. Did you even try to > terminate it? (There are many available applications that allows you to > test products like CPF, Sandboxie by trying to terminate them as one of > the first things a malware does is to try to kill any security app). > You will see that CPF will resist terminations quite well. Some of > these sandboxes (actually quite a few that we tried) can be terminated > from within which is not a good thing. I don't want this to be an > attack on other products nor do i want to continue on this thread but > Bearbottom you don't seem to know enough technical details about how > these things work so please have an open mind few suggestions we make > and don't attack us back when we give you information you might not be > aware of. > > Melih > Take my advise...don't quit your day job. Sandboxie is a virtual environment: Run your Web browser inside the sandbox. This way any incoming, unsolicited software (spyware, malware and the like) that you download, is trapped in the sandbox. Changes made to your list of Favorites or Bookmarks, hijacking of your preferred start page, new and unwanted icons on your desktop -- all these, and more, are trapped in and bound to the sandbox. You could try a new toolbar add-on, browser extension or just about any kind of software. If you don't like it, you throw away the sandbox by deleting the session, and start again with a fresh sandbox. On the other hand, if you do like the new piece of software, you can re-install it outside the sandbox so it becomes a permanent part of your system. Sandboxie intercepts changes to both your files and registry settings, making it virtually impossible for any software to reach outside the sandbox. Sandboxie traps cached browser items into the sandbox as a by-product of normal operation, so when you throw away the sandbox, all the history records and other side-effects of your browsing disappear as well. Very easy to use, install and when you run the program from it's Sandboxie icon, it opens your default browser and your inside the sand box. The only way you can tell your in the sand box, is the fact you ran your browser by clicking the SandBoxie icon. You can also run other kinds of programs that go to the Internet inside the sandbox. -- I research freeware http://bearbottoms1.com
From: badgolferman on 2 Sep 2006 10:59 Bear Bottoms, 9/2/2006,9:15:14 AM, wrote: > You did a very bad job, and were extremely evasive about the issue. It seems to me you are really antagonizing this fellow. If you don't like his product don't use it, but at least quit poking at him. His responses to you have been very courteous and he has been trying to direct you to his forum for the technical discussion you insist on having here. It's because of the people in his forum that he made a change to his product, not because of your incessant badgering and belittling of him. "Don't quit your day job" is rather rude considering his product has received excellent reviews from people more knowledgeable of network security than yourself. I am considering trying out the Comodo Firewall but haven't yet found any objective test that sets it above Sygate Personal Firewall 5.6 or the Netveda SafetyNet offering. If anyone has a link that may dare to make a rating I would appreciate it. -- "When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut." ~ Will Rogers
From: »Q« on 2 Sep 2006 11:05 "In_Parentheses" <quoder(a)demonstrand.um> wrote in <news:Xns98323A7F78CB7QED(a)85.31.186.76>: > Given the fact that the quoting police is so powerful here and can > drag a discussion really off the topic of the discussion, If someone decides to start a flamewar about it, as you did, that could happen. In this case, though, the discussion went on despite your flames. > I have decided to stop further posting in acf. Change your nick to humphry and come back in a little while. ;) -- ?Q?
From: Father Merrin on 2 Sep 2006 11:48 [Snip] > Seems to me they could have a program called CPF that installs > itself without Launch Pad. That is a wish. That would also > be end of discussion. > Not to get into a flame war here but I would have to agree. The discussion about Launch Pad is a mute point now and only kept alive from a few hardcore people who get their kicks on arguing. It seems to me that some people don't understand the idea of FREE, you always have the option to BUY a commercial firewall to meet your needs so please give it a rest already. By the way, thanks Melih for CPF and your openness to change it in spite of your critics. FM
From: kapok on 2 Sep 2006 12:38
Melih You've probably noticed by now that there are a few vociferous members of the "tough crowd" round here that have Comodo targeted. Some have legitimate suspicions - you wouldn't believe some of the shittiness masquerading as freeware that's been unmasked here over the years. Renewable licenses that turn into pay licenses after the user has invested tons of time getting settings just right (glad that you abandoned the slightly worrying yearly renewable). Some of your other critics here are, in my opinion, single-tracked, humourless FUD merchants whose tiresome agenda discounts any explanation that might derail their tedious FUD- fuelled pleasure. I decided to make the move from an old Zone Alarm installation. Tried Bart's Firewall, which actually crashed during a simple preferences change and left me scrabbling to disconnect - the first time in eight years of firewalls I've ever encountered such an event. Saw a link to Comodo here a few days ago and spent the next few hours reading through the Comodo forums. Installed it a few hours ago, and am delighted. My timing was good with the release of the new version. Safe, logical, intuitive, good-looking. Works as needed straight out of "the box". Thanks. I thought you might appreciate another positive word from these parts! -- ..kapok |