From: Steve Terry on
"andy" <andy.ggrps(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:94a7fe78-cba0-430e-a0bb-a276adb01620(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> On 28 Mar, 02:56, "Steve Terry" <gfour...(a)tesco.net> wrote:
>> "andy" <andy.gg...(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:c19a508a-c0ba-4f2e-911b-2c59fedc9471(a)33g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>> > On 27 Mar, 19:02, "Brian Gregory [UK]" <n...(a)bgdsv.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> "andy" <andy.gg...(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:69e19e9f-da4b-4e4f-ab3d-fa801523d10a(a)j21g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
<snip>
>> > Not all such providers are necessarily like that.
>>
>> As i said which one do you work for?
>
> You don't need to make this sneering false insinuation twice,
> especially now I have already answered
> I don't work for any of them
> Rather than smugly sit back and sneer, which is all you've managed on
> this thread so far,
>
>
If you'd bothered to read my posts, you'd see i've more than sneered
at this long term problem created by non opt out networks.

I find your efforts bizarre at trying to make an inherently corrupt system
work, only someone working in the "industry" would even try

Steve Terry
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From: andy on
On 29 Mar, 03:10, "Steve Terry" <gfour...(a)tesco.net> wrote:
> "andy" <andy.gg...(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:94a7fe78-cba0-430e-a0bb-a276adb01620(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On 28 Mar, 02:56, "Steve Terry" <gfour...(a)tesco.net> wrote:
> >> "andy" <andy.gg...(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:c19a508a-c0ba-4f2e-911b-2c59fedc9471(a)33g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
> >> > On 27 Mar, 19:02, "Brian Gregory [UK]" <n...(a)bgdsv.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >> "andy" <andy.gg...(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:69e19e9f-da4b-4e4f-ab3d-fa801523d10a(a)j21g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> <snip>
> >> > Not all such providers are necessarily like that.
>
> >> As i said which one do you work for?
>
> > You don't need to make this sneering false insinuation twice,
> > especially now I have already answered
> > I don't work for any of them
> > Rather than smugly sit back and sneer, which is all you've managed on
> > this thread so far,
>
> If you'd bothered to read my posts, you'd see i've more than sneered
> at this long term problem created by non opt out networks.
>
> I find your efforts bizarre at trying to make an inherently corrupt system
> work, only someone working in the "industry" would even try
>

I find your accusation that I'm defending it, and your doubled
suggestion that I work in it, false and defamatory

There are plenty of premium text services without problems, but
undoubtedly there is also sharp practice. When the latter occurs,
people need to do something about it, instead of this supine whingeing
embellished with made-up falsehoods against the wrong target.

The OP has been given plenty of advice, but has turned on and lied
about and insulted the people trying to help him

But I'm repeating myself ...
From: Gwyn on
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:52:41 -0700 (PDT), andy
<andy.ggrps(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

>On 28 Mar, 13:32, "Brian Gregory [UK]" <n...(a)bgdsv.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I don't see how a single text that costs �5 can be anything other than a
>> con, that they're hoping you won't realize is so expensive until it's too
>> late. What information can possibly be worth that much to anybody other than
>> an exceedingly rich person who just doesn't care about money.
>>
>
>All of them by definition anyway, you mean?
>
>It depends what it's for.

<snipped informative discussion>

Im with Steve on this one every time someone questions you, you come
up with another informative answer so I repeat him which one do you
work for? Come on now dont be coy....
From: andy on
On 29 Mar, 09:34, Gwyn <gwynde...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:52:41 -0700 (PDT), andy
>
> <andy.gg...(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> >On 28 Mar, 13:32, "Brian Gregory [UK]" <n...(a)bgdsv.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> I don't see how a single text that costs 5 can be anything other than a
> >> con, that they're hoping you won't realize is so expensive until it's too
> >> late. What information can possibly be worth that much to anybody other than
> >> an exceedingly rich person who just doesn't care about money.
>
> >All of them by definition anyway, you mean?
>
> >It depends what it's for.
>
> <snipped informative discussion>
>
> Im with Steve on this one every time someone questions you, you come
> up with another informative answer so I repeat him which one do you
> work for? Come on now dont be coy....

I have said more than once that I have no connection with any phone
company, except as customer

I'm sorry that you find my answers informative, and thus out of
context amongst the half-baked guesswork rumour and innuendo that
forms much of the rest of the material on here.

If you take all of my answers here, you'd know as much as me by know,
that is not a lot (i.e. using up easyMobile credit to get Voipcheap
credit was my main direct experience, without problems), but that is
still apparently more than people who can't be arsed to make a simple
phone call to the provider on a Manchester number and ask to be
unsubscribed and how to obtain a refund, or people who want to
categorise the whole lot as in the same vein as wheel-clampers and
nightclub bouncers.

If people want some reform of this sector, then do something snsible
about abuses which are found, rather than post meaningless character
assassination of people who don't even work in it, or fabricate
paranoid innuendo that networks are secretly running dodgy operations
themselves.
From: Martin Jay on
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:38:00 -0700 (PDT), andy
<andy.ggrps(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

>There are plenty of premium text services without problems, but
>undoubtedly there is also sharp practice. When the latter occurs,
>people need to do something about it, instead of this supine whingeing
>embellished with made-up falsehoods against the wrong target.

Unfortunately giffgaff have done nothing, other than push the problem
and blame on to someone else.

>The OP has been given plenty of advice, but has turned on and lied
>about and insulted the people trying to help him

You keep saying I've lied, but fail to back up that accusation.

Oddly, you are totally blind to the lies from Vincent and giffgaff.
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