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From: Steve Terry on 4 Apr 2010 20:48 "Justin Credible" <matt.finish(a)btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:g62un.186888$Z63.53176(a)newsfe08.ams2... > "Andrew Templeman" <andy(a)templeman.org.uk> wrote in message > news:1jg7ty1.us0rwn11w3adqN%andy(a)templeman.org.uk... <snip> > > Yep, I hardly use my mobile and I would be a classic candidate for a > pay-as-you-go handset. > > The one reason I won't is the fear of getting scammed by these sorts of > cowboy fraudsters. You top up with �10 and when you need to use your > phone a month later you find your credit's evaporated. > > Get yourself a T Mobile or Vodafone PAYG or contract, and have reverse charge text barring enabled. 5 Years ago i had a T Mobile Freetime750 contract (with big cashback) I immediately enabled reverse Text barring, and over the contract period had no trouble at all. It's obscene that the other mobile networks 3, Orange, O2, (and their virtuals) haven't followed suit. Obviously they equate that sharing in criminally gained revenue still outbalances customer relations. Steve Terry -- Get a free Three 3pay Sim with �2 bonus after �10 top up http://freeagent.three.co.uk/stand/view/id/5276
From: Justin Credible on 5 Apr 2010 12:56 "andy" <andy.ggrps(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:0be521fa-dbae-4645-882d-4465d9ac54e8(a)z6g2000yqz.googlegroups.com... > > You don't have to copy other people's false accusations > My apologies; I observed you were somewhat vociferous in your defence of the practices that go on and assumed you were employed by one of the sharks (toothless or otherwise) that infest that particular stretch of water. But I stand by what I said; that area of the industry needs outlawing at worst, at best it needs a bomb putting under it. And I can stand on the moral high ground because I've been the victim of two previous attempted scams. And I can name Stream as scammers without fear of legal repercussions because they were the guilty party on one of the occasions.
From: andy on 5 Apr 2010 15:23 On 5 Apr, 17:56, "Justin Credible" <matt.fin...(a)btopenworld.com> wrote: > "andy" <andy.gg...(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > > news:0be521fa-dbae-4645-882d-4465d9ac54e8(a)z6g2000yqz.googlegroups.com... > > > > > You don't have to copy other people's false accusations > > My apologies; I observed you were somewhat vociferous in your defence of the > practices that go on and assumed you were employed by one of the sharks > (toothless or otherwise) that infest that particular stretch of water. Sorry, I'm fed up with repetitive false accusations and insinuations like this I am not lying on here when I say for the fourth or fifth time that I have no connection with any phone company Also, I absolutely have not been vociferous in defence of malpractice. I've said over an over again that people need to sort this out when it happens (like you have), instead of the supine and ineffectual whingeing as practiced by the OP, who refuses to extract his thumb from his bum and make one or two simple phone calls
From: Martin Jay on 6 Apr 2010 07:58 On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:23:36 -0700 (PDT), andy <andy.ggrps(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >Also, I absolutely have not been vociferous in defence of malpractice. >I've said over an over again that people need to sort this out when it >happens (like you have), instead of the supine and ineffectual >whingeing as practiced by the OP, who refuses to extract his thumb >from his bum and make one or two simple phone calls How many more times do I have to repeat myself? I have contacted PlanetCalling. They said it's nothing to do with them. I have contacted 2ergo and have not received a response and probably never will. I have contacted PhonepayPlus, but they take up to twelve weeks to respond. Given that giffgaff have started to make up evidence, see <http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9008/martinjay.jpg>, I wonder how far I'll get with them. I have also contacted giffgaff, the company that billed me for the premium rate text message. 'Nothing to do with us' they say. You keep saying I've done nothing, but you're wrong. I have done everything I realistically can. -- con-con giffgaff: <http://www.spam-free.org.uk/giffgaff/>
From: Martin Jay on 6 Apr 2010 07:42
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:57:22 -0700 (PDT), andy <andy.ggrps(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >Why ask such a stupid question which has been already answered in >early replies on Martin's thread on the giffgaff forum, and repeatedly >again on here? > >1. giffgaff told him the short-code number > >2. I told him how to contact the number provider, after looking it up >on the Phonepayplus website > >3. when he said that was pointless, I phoned them to confirm that they >would be able to give him details of the service provider, and told >him that And I'm still waiting for a response from 2ergo. I doubt I'll receive one. giffgaff has already started making up evidence, see <http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9008/martinjay.jpg>, so it's probably all pointless. Specifically, I was not charged for 'sending' those two text messages and they were both sent AFTER the premium rate text messages. Very, very suspicious. Oh, and did anyone else notice that Vincent suddenly disappeared after being caught out? >So there is no need for rhetorical pretence that there is any >difficulty involved in identifying these services. So easy that you and giffgaff initially fingered the wrong service provider? From giffgaff: ----- Begin Quote ----- These services can be subscribed to in a number of ways other than by direct call or SMS and although I requested your call records to be checked this is by no way confirmation of whether you did or didn't request this subscription. Based solely on you call records there is no history of you requesting this service via either of these methods, however I have dug a little further and can tell you that you can subscribe to this specific premium text service via their website which I've attached a link to below: http://www.planetcalling.com/ ----- End Quote ----- And from you: ----- Begin Quote ----- From: andy <andy.ggrps(a)googlemail.com> Message-ID: <374469ee-b6b2-4fc0-8e35-f0013f681ba3(a)r27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:24:55 -0700 (PDT) even then, you were still ranting on very recently about having to wait for 3 months to hear from Phonepayplus, when you're evidently too arrogant or too lazy to simply phone up PlanetCalling and ask them for a refund ----- End Quote ----- -- con-con giffgaff: <http://www.spam-free.org.uk/giffgaff/> |