From: Paul J Gans on
J G Miller <miller(a)yoyo.org> wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:54:36 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote:

>> What I want is a system that just works.

>Do you think that other people want a system that does now work?

Of course. Most just won't say anything.

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From: Paul J Gans on
J G Miller <miller(a)yoyo.org> wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:07:11 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote:

>> Shall I do penance by reciting "I love openSUSE" 100 times each night
>> before bed for a month?

>No, you have to buy 100 ordinary shares in Novell.

><http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:NOVL>

>Seems that they are on a slight downward slide at the moment.

That's another whole worry. But lets not go there unless
we have to.

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felmon <nemo(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:32:35 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote:

>>>Starts to make you sound like a grumpy old man.
>>
>> I *am* a grumpy old man. ;-)

>I find criticism can be useful, helps us look to improvements. or
>according to taste, it can help one sort out one's preferences.

>I'm a kde man but haven't taken the plunge into kde 4.x. at present I'm
>mostly in Debian anyway which lags behind - ok with me, actually.

>can't a script be devised which auto-mounts usb drives? thought that was
>a task for fstab? do you really have to go to runlevel 5 to get this?

Of course, but it wasn't a real problem, just an annoyance.

The only difference is that you have to run the script.

>(I used to do as you, first command-line and then startx but now what the
>hell....)

Exactly.

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Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman(a)tudelft.nl> wrote:
>Paul J Gans <gansno(a)panix.com> wrote:
>> I have no doubt that KDE 4.x will work quite well for some value
>> of x. What I do not like is that I have to sit at 11.1 for months
>> if not longer waiting for that to happen.
>>
>> openSUSE will NEVER be a major desktop contender if it continues
>> to make its production users be beta testers.

>ANY Linux release in 2009 (and later) is using KDE 4 now as KDE 3.5 has
>been declared DEAD by _its_ developers in 2008, they don't even try
>to get it compiled in newer distribution releases.
>openSUSE 11.1 was released in dec 2008, as was Slackware 12.2 and both
>were the last ones to support KDE 3.5.
>The same goes for kubuntu, the 9.x versions do NOT support KDE 3 anymore
>(and the ubuntu ones without the k of course uses gnome as the default
>desktop).
>For Slackware (13.0) Pat did a last try to get KDE3 compiled and released
>that as "unsupported, NOT to be changed anymore", so when it doesn't
>run in 13.1 anymore, bad luck.

I both know and understand that.

And I understand the position of the programmers.

But too few of them seem to be trying too many changes at once.

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Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman(a)tudelft.nl> wrote:
>Paul J Gans <gansno(a)panix.com> wrote:
>> One of the neat things about KDE 3.5 is that if I center button
>> click on the "fullsize" icon on the top right hand edge of the
>> Konsole window, I get a screen that is as wide as it was before
>> but runs from the top to the bottom of the screen.

>That isn't KDE specific. Even my old xfce 4.2 already did that
>(and "right button" click does a horizontal maximize).

Thread drift. This has nothing to do with the subject. The
response here is to the question of why one might want to
resize windows.

>Although it wasn't automatic, I even already had something like that
>working (configured in its config) in fvwm-2 (in Slackware 3.x).
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