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From: David Bolt on 19 Mar 2010 22:34 On Saturday 20 Mar 2010 01:49, while playing with a tin of spray paint, Paul J Gans painted this mural: > I'm certainly not adverse to learning a new interface. I've been > learning new interfaces since 1955 when I first programmed a computer. > No, that's not a typo. > > But I am adverse to a major change in what I have to do to configure > the KDE 4 interface. Things are not where they used to be and > some things don't (yet) work. Stop thinking of KDE4 as an upgrade to KDE3. Think of is as a completely different desktop that, in some respects, just happens to look a lot like KDE3. > I know that I will have to adapt to KDE 4. You don't _have_ to adapt to KDE4. You can choose to use a different desktop, and there are several others to choose from, or you can go with KDE4. > I am trying to delay > that change and hoping that KDE 4 will mature in the interim. I'm using KDE4.3.5 with 11.2. While I still miss some features of KDE3, like media info in the properties dialogue box, it's minor. I tweaked my desktops so they looked like my KDE3 desktop, although I never found out how to add the application menus to the desktop. Not that it matters to me now as I no longer want them. I've added a new auto-hiding panel at the top of the screen that holds icons for all my most used programs. > And > I am also doing something I've never had to do before. I'm > setting up a separate machine to run 11.2 so I can play with KDE 4 > without screwing up production that I have to do. Why set up a separate machine when you can set up a virtual machine? Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 11.0 32b | | | openSUSE 11.3M3 32b openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2 64b | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | RISC OS 4.02 | RISC OS 3.11
From: David Bolt on 19 Mar 2010 22:47 On Saturday 20 Mar 2010 02:01, while playing with a tin of spray paint, Paul J Gans painted this mural: > WLS <rafter22(a)verizonremove.net> wrote: >>I don't recall ever wanting to keep a terminal window re-sized so can't >>really comment on that. > > One of the neat things about KDE 3.5 is that if I center button > click on the "fullsize" icon on the top right hand edge of the > Konsole window, I get a screen that is as wide as it was before > but runs from the top to the bottom of the screen. Strangely enough, with KDE4.3.5, I get the same behaviour. > I prefer this for programming since I can see more code at once. > It is also good for reading man pages. I find that too. > If one right clicks on the same icon I get one that is full screen > wide but the same hight as before. You see that comment I made about KDE4.3.5 having the same behaviour when middle-button clicking the full screen icon? Well, guess what. Right clicking on that same icon does the same thing in KDE4.3.5 as it does in KDE3.5.9 and KDE3.5.10. > This is good for displays of "top" > or "mount" or any of a number of programs with wide output. I generally don't like it quite so wide. Full screen, konsole is 271x68 and that's just a touch too wide and makes it easier to lose track of which line you're reading. Then again, I'm now using a 24" screen. Even with a 20" screen, I'd still not use konsole with so wide a window. I find that the present width of 131x68 is plenty wide enough. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 11.0 32b | | | openSUSE 11.3M3 32b openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2 64b | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | RISC OS 4.02 | RISC OS 3.11
From: J G Miller on 20 Mar 2010 10:02 On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:27:16 +0100, houghi wrote: > As there is nothing else, just use Windows. You know quite well that there are alternatives to GNOME and KDE for the GNU/Linux desktop, viz LXDE, Windowmaker, XFCE etc.
From: Bernd Felsche on 20 Mar 2010 11:02 houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote: >Paul J Gans wrote: >> I have only played with Gnome on a portable and I have not done >> anything serious with it. >> It is the realization that I may well be left high and dry >> that has led to my minor upset over this. >You do not like KDE. You do not like GNOME. As there is nothing else, >just use Windows. How very, very cruel! Wrong, fortunately. -- /"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | If builders built buildings the way programmers X against HTML mail | wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that / \ and postings | came along would destroy civilization.
From: Darrell Stec on 20 Mar 2010 12:03
houghi wrote: > So if people do not like k3b, they might not like KDE as that might be a > program they will need all the time. For these people KDE will not be an > option. So they try GNOME and there they do not like gqview, so GNOME is > not an option. > Ha! I upgraded because I needed a different version of gqview to view a particular website. > Very rarely do I hear of people who run gqview under KDE or k3b under > GNOME. As if people think that is forbidden. While k3b is a default application during installation, I think the problem is different. I think for people coming from Windows they are simply not aware of the options they have. I may be the exception but I probably have five or six CD/DVD manipulative programs, and the same number of graphics application, and even more programming development applications and web page design applications (an music and ....). I think if the application is there in the menu, new Linux users will eventually get around to using them. I now I occasionally just run down the entire list of programs in the repositories just to find interesting stuff. Another part of the problem is that many people only have the three standard repositories. I have many more, but caution is needed when installing applications from other repositories. -- Later, Darrell |