From: felmon on
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:32:35 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote:

>>Starts to make you sound like a grumpy old man.
>
> I *am* a grumpy old man. ;-)

I find criticism can be useful, helps us look to improvements. or
according to taste, it can help one sort out one's preferences.

I'm a kde man but haven't taken the plunge into kde 4.x. at present I'm
mostly in Debian anyway which lags behind - ok with me, actually.

can't a script be devised which auto-mounts usb drives? thought that was
a task for fstab? do you really have to go to runlevel 5 to get this?

(I used to do as you, first command-line and then startx but now what the
hell....)

Felmon

From: JT on
On 22/03/10 10:19, houghi wrote:
> <snip>
> There is no real advantage in doing that. Unfortunatly due to the NVidea
> drivers I can't go to CLI with CLT-ALT-F1. :-(
>
> houghi
>
Puzzled: I'm using nvidia too. No problem in going to CLI with
ctrl-alt-f1 (or 2-6 for that matter, can't have enough CLI's now can you?)

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From: JT on
On 22/03/10 11:21, houghi wrote:
> JT wrote:
>
>> On 22/03/10 10:19, houghi wrote:
>>
>>> <snip>
>>> There is no real advantage in doing that. Unfortunatly due to the NVidea
>>> drivers I can't go to CLI with CLT-ALT-F1. :-(
>>>
>>> houghi
>>>
>>>
>> Puzzled: I'm using nvidia too. No problem in going to CLI with
>> ctrl-alt-f1 (or 2-6 for that matter, can't have enough CLI's now can you?)
>>
> Probably due to the fact that I sue dualscreens not in Xinerama. XFCE is
> the only one that does it correctly. Neither KDE, not GNOME or
> Windowmaker show me what I want to see.
>
There's a diff for sure. I use 'only' one monitor. Curiosity: does it
work when using only one monitor?
> I have no idea where to start looking to solve it. When I try, I get the
> desktop on screen 0, but not on screen 1. With Windowmaker I am able to
> use a workaround. I start X with only xterm. In that xterm, I can launch
> Windowmaker once for each screen.
>
> I then still can not go to tty1. If I use the standard NVidia driver, I
> am able to go to tty1, but I am unable to use dualscreen the way I want.
>
> With KDE and GNOME this workaround does not work.
>
> So it is either dualscreen or tty1-6. Both won't work. :-(
>
Tough choice .... :D
> houghi
>


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From: Shmuel Metz on
In <59-dnakyqbiSfzjWnZ2dnUVZ8gWdnZ2d(a)bt.com>, on 03/21/2010
at 09:08 AM, Darklight <nglennglen(a)netscape.net> said:

>The only real difference between kde3 and kde4 is plasma.

There's also a difference in directory structure, and I have no idea
whether everything in .kde should be copied to .kde4 or just selected
subdirectories, or even select files.

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From: Shmuel Metz on
In <ho47v8$bj5$11(a)reader1.panix.com>, on 03/21/2010
at 04:40 AM, Paul J Gans <gansno(a)panix.com> said:

>You see, in a real distro, the unix principle of minimum astonishment
>should still apply.

I understand "Unix" and I understand 'principle of minimum astonishment",
but I don't understand the two in conjunction. When the only toll in your
toolbox is a pipe, everything looks like a filter, and the na�ve user
expects the same results from, e.g., eqn | tbl | troff as from tbl | eqn |
troff. That may have been fixed, but it was definitely around for a long
time.

This doesn't mean that I like how the KDE3 to KDE4 transition was handled;
IMHO there should have been an automatic migration of configuration files
for at least address book, calendar, mail and news.

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