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From: Ulick Magee on 17 Mar 2010 20:06 houghi wrote: > > Having the choice does not mean you need to act upon that choice. I have > the choice NOT to go to the Irish pub this evening. It is an option with > many advantages, but it does not mean I will follow up on that choice. > :-D Beannacht l� fheile Ph�draig duit, a h-Houghi :) �laim lionn dubh anocht. Agus gloine amh�in uisce beatha. Sl�inte! http://borel.slu.edu/gnu/index.html oh all right then - English version: http://borel.slu.edu/gnu/cuidiu.html Unfortunately this project appears to be unmaintained :( -- Ulick Magee Free software and free formats for free information for free people. Open Office for Windows/OSX/Linux: http://www.openoffice.org openSUSE Linux: http://en.opensuse.org
From: Darrell Stec on 17 Mar 2010 21:26 houghi wrote: > Darrell Stec wrote: >> I have to load the KDE3.5 version of kpilot because the newer versions >> that >> work under KDE4.3 have the conduits disabled. No data gets transferred >> to my old Palm Pilot m100. > > So what dod the developers say about that? Seems like a serious problem > to me. > They are discontinuing support for the program. They cite the number of full featured cell phones (iPhone, Droid) as the reason. >> For the newer Bibletime versions when the application first starts up it >> skews the monitor for a few seconds. When dragging and dropping a verse >> from one language to another the program abruptly shuts down. > > Only in KDE, or is that in GNOME as well? Just to determine if this is a > KDE desktop issue or a program issue. > I don't have the Gnome desktop installed. >> In Pidgin I use to have keybindings in the .kde4/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 >> and >> gtkrc files so that Ctr-Enter sends and Enter adds a newline. In KDE4.3 >> those files are rewritten every time I either reboot or log in. The only >> way to fix that is to add the keybindings in the /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc file >> and >> mark it read-only. This breaks other programs. > > For me that might be a reason to start using a different desktop with > the same programs. > > KDE3.5 was the perfect fit for me. I always thought Gnome was ugly and all the others to sparse. > > houghi -- Later, Darrell
From: Paul J Gans on 17 Mar 2010 22:02 arnold <arnold(a)nto.com.invalid> wrote: >Chris Cox wrote: ><snipped> >> >> Is KDE 4 ready? Well.... it's evolving. Takes a bit of >getting used >> to. It's different. >KDE 4 is just like Linux. it is, and will hopefully continue >to be, a work in progress. The world evolves. We just need to >learn to accept it. :-) I can't. We went from KDE 3 that worked 99% of the time to KDE 4 that not only doesn't come close to that, but made many changes just for the sake of making changes. Linux also has not progressed ever upwards. But the regressions have been small and short lasting. It is now quite stable and I expect it to "just work". I need KDE, after all this time, to "just work" as well. If it doesn't I am not dealing with an operating system, but with a toy. Like many others, I use Linux as a production system. I can't stop while KDE matures. -- --- Paul J. Gans
From: Paul J Gans on 17 Mar 2010 22:06 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann(a)t-online.de> wrote: >J G Miller wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:23:16 -0400, Arnold wrote: >> >>> Chris Cox wrote: >>>> >>>> Is KDE 4 ready? Well.... it's evolving. Takes a bit of >>> getting used >>>> to. It's different. >>> >>> KDE 4 is just like Linux. it is, and will hopefully continue to be, a >>> work in progress. >> >> Yes but the question is, putting aside all the flash and bells >> and whistles and still to be resolved bugs, >> >> "Is KDE 4.0 a *better* user interface than KDE 3.5 ?" >KDE 4.3 /4.4 absolutely is. KDE4.0 was not That's a matter of opinion. Any major change to the way a system operates is a serious matter. Not perhaps for hobbiests, but for folks who use that system in a production environment as I do. As a result I'm still running 11.1. When that is no longer viable and I *have* to run a newer system, I will decide if that will be openSUSE or something else perhaps Gnomish. The learning curve will be the same for me. -- --- Paul J. Gans
From: Paul J Gans on 17 Mar 2010 22:07
Darklight <nglennglen(a)netscape.net> wrote: >Darrell Stec wrote: >> John Bowling wrote: >> >>> Paul J Gans wrote: >>> >>>> Kevin Nathan <knathan(a)project54.com> wrote: >>>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:19:56 +0100 >>>>>houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>Almost ready for download. Yeah! http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_11.3 >>>>>> >>>>>>:-D >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>When is 11.4 going to be out? ;-) >>>> >>>> I'm holding out for 12.0 and KDE 5. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I want what ever is next (12.0 or 11.3?) but with kde 3.5+ (upgraded but >>> not to 4.anything). >> >> That would be nice. So many programs are broken in KDE4.3 like kpilot, >> pidgin, noteedit, Bibletime among them and which I use on a consistent >> basis. >> >Well up date i have kde4.4.1 release 227 installed a vast improvement over >kde3.5.10 which i did like. I will find out soon enough. I take this seriously enough that I'm freeing up an older machine to use as a test bed. I can't take the production machines down just to test KDE 4.whatever. -- --- Paul J. Gans |