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From: Dan C on 27 Nov 2009 22:41 On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:42:28 +0000, Lew Pitcher wrote: > Dan C <youmustbejoking(a)lan.invalid> trolled: > >> The troll known as 'rm', > > Har. > > The troll known as Dan C, currently impersonating his own loosened up > little sphincter, does not know life outside of his cell. Well, I guess that'll serve as confirmation that the troll who is impersonating 'Lew Pitcher', using the email address of: lewpitcher(a)lewpitcher.ca is indeed our own pet troll, 'rm'. Thanks for playing, doofus. -- "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". "Bother!" said Pooh, as he wiped the vomit from his chin. Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
From: Theodore Heise on 27 Nov 2009 22:50 On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:24:35 +0000 (UTC), Sylvain Robitaille <syl(a)alcor.concordia.ca> wrote: > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:21:21 +0100, Henrik Carlqvist wrote: > >>> Then I saw colleagues doing some things with vim that I'd been wishing >>> I could figure out how to do with Emacs >> >> Even though this thread has since long left its initial purpose I get >> curios. Do you have any quick example of some of those things vi can >> do? > Things like reformatting lines quoted from a netnews article, > without first removing the preceding quote (">") characters, > then adding them back after formatting (highlight the lines in > question, then "gq"). Pico does this too. -- Theodore (Ted) Heise <theo(a)heise.nu> Bloomington, IN, USA
From: Theodore Heise on 27 Nov 2009 22:51 On 27 Nov 2009 17:51:00 +0100, Helmut Hullen <helmut(a)hullen.de> wrote: > Hallo, Theodore, > >> When faced with the vi interface that follows 'crontab -e', I >> reach for the O'Reilly "Unix in a Nutshell" book, in which I've >> put a tab at the chapter on vi. > > What about > > VISUAL=pico crontab -e > or > EDITOR=pico crontab -e Sure. Guess I look at it as a chance to practice vi a lttle bit. -- Theodore (Ted) Heise <theo(a)heise.nu> Bloomington, IN, USA
From: Theodore Heise on 27 Nov 2009 22:57 On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:12:52 -0600, Aaron W Hsu <arcfide(a)local> wrote: > Mike Jones <Not(a)Arizona.Bay> writes: > >>Sidenote: An editor that requires a handy handbook? My point >>made. ;| > > How many commands do you have to know to actually use Vi to > recover something? > > Movement - hjkl$0 = 6 > Editing - i[esc] = 2 > General - :wq! = 4 > > That's twelve. That's not hard for anyone. Most people have that > many memorized for any basic editor or even something like MS > Word. True. And if I used it more than once or twice a year I might take the time to memorize tehse. -- Theodore (Ted) Heise <theo(a)heise.nu> Bloomington, IN, USA
From: John F. Morse on 27 Nov 2009 23:56
Theodore Heise wrote: > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:12:52 -0600, > Aaron W Hsu <arcfide(a)local> wrote: > >> Mike Jones <Not(a)Arizona.Bay> writes: >> >> >>> Sidenote: An editor that requires a handy handbook? My point >>> made. ;| >>> >> How many commands do you have to know to actually use Vi to >> recover something? >> >> Movement - hjkl$0 = 6 >> Editing - i[esc] = 2 >> General - :wq! = 4 >> >> That's twelve. That's not hard for anyone. Most people have that >> many memorized for any basic editor or even something like MS >> Word. >> > > True. And if I used it more than once or twice a year I might > take the time to memorize tehse. > You don't need to strain your brain with 12 commands. I could manage with five: i to insert at the cursor <esc> to leave insert (editing) mode : command prefix w to write q to quit Or, when you are finished editing use :wq to write and quit. I don't count the cursor movement keys because they don't require memorization -- they have arrows on them. ;-) http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596529833/preview#preview http://www.eng.hawaii.edu/Tutor/vi.html http://www.vim.org/viusers.php -- John |