From: brent on
On Apr 21, 3:45 am, D from BC <myrealaddr...(a)comic.com> wrote:
> In article <GPmdnWflYYOV_lPWnZ2dnUVZ_gydn...(a)earthlink.com>,
> re...(a)midwest.net says...
>
>
>
> > It's not a national Christian prayer day, it's national prayer day.  It
>
> The majority of the US is Christian.
> It's a Christian trojan due to national prayer day serving the majority.
> To test that national prayer day is aimed at the Christian majority,  
> compare with these proposed national days:
> National Koan Day
> National Yoga Day
> National Meditation Day
> National Skeptic Day
>
> None of these days will appeal to the majority which is Christian.
> National prayer day is virtually a Christian prayer day.
>
> Since praying doesn't result in any supernatural results (especially for
> zero probability events) then why not other magic thinking days...
> National Rain Dance Day
> National Voodoo Doll Day
> National Sacrifice Day
> National Magic Thinking Day
>
> How about something closer to reality..
>
> National Plan Your Life Day
> National You Can Do It Day
> National Enjoy Life Day
> National Be Kinder to Others Day
>
> And for sometime after Christmas..
> National Regifting Day.
>
> Why pray anyways..
> God is watching you and can easily figure out what you want.
> God knows what you'd pray even if you're on life support and comatose
> with a huge brain tumor.
>
> --
> D from BC
> British Columbia

All the doubts you bring up are not very hard to figure out. Many,
perhaps most, Christians can think of the inconsistencies in the
Christian belief system just as easily as you can. There is other
evidence in this world, that you seem to completely ignore, that
causes people of faith to embrace the Christian faith. Many people of
faith wrestle with the inconsistencies of belief with the
inconsistencies of unbelief (There are just as many inconsistencies in
unbelief too) and decide to take the leap into the faith of
Christianity.
From: D from BC on
In article <3l1ns59hs5dnismh3vkdmoedb3vte2p1at(a)4ax.com>,
jfields(a)austininstruments.com says...
>
> >YOu are belittled when the doctor does nothing until you ASK the doctor
> >. 'Please fix my leg.'
>
> ---
> More nonsense from a small-minded, somewhat malignant egotist.
>
> Should the doctor follow you around and subjugate his life to your whims
> on the basis that you _might_ stub your toe and are too proud to ask for
> help when you do?
> ---
>

A God has the power to watch you 24/7. God is all powerful and has the
power to be a superdoctor that's watching you 24/7.
When God fails to 'just heal it' unconditionally it is a violation of
the Hippocratic oath. This is God being evil by inaction.
Real or not and with or without God's reasons, God is evil by default
for billions of inactions of unconditional kindness.
When a God requires to be prayed to/ASKED for healing then God is not
being unconditional kind.
It's petty and belittling for one to ask God 'pretty please ..pretty
please fix my leg.' when God is fully aware of the situation and just
due to pettiness and for no reason .. needs to hear 'pretty please'.
God is more evil if he needs to be prayed to/asked when someone is
unable to pray/ASK due to unconsciousness, coma, dementia or brain
injury.
'He died cause he was unconscious and couldn't pray to/ask God for
medical help.'

The Hippocratic oath is a 'just do it' ethic.
God is not a 'just do it' God. God has red tape.
God is more evil than doctors.

Christian engineers are ridiculous is thinking an omnibenevolent God is
more good than doctors.


--
D from BC
British Columbia
From: D from BC on
In article <04e986e0-1f34-4742-8f58-
d077c2d59e6c(a)z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, bulegoge(a)columbus.rr.com
says...
> All the doubts you bring up are not very hard to figure out. Many,
> perhaps most, Christians can think of the inconsistencies in the
> Christian belief system just as easily as you can. There is other
> evidence in this world, that you seem to completely ignore, that
> causes people of faith to embrace the Christian faith. Many people of
> faith wrestle with the inconsistencies of belief with the
> inconsistencies of unbelief (There are just as many inconsistencies in
> unbelief too) and decide to take the leap into the faith of
> Christianity.
>

At the very beginning Christianity has inconsistency/incompatible
elements/illogic/incompatible facts with the definition of God.
This plane can't even get off the ground.
God cannot be omniscient/all powerful at the same time due to being
unable to change/know his future at the same time.
God is undetectable and leaves no evidence (How about 'Made by God'
carved on the moon')
God is inconsistent with most real things leaving evidence.
Any definition of God is inconsistent.
The only thing consistent thing about God is the use of everything
possible to force the existence of something that doesn't exist.

You're presented with a box. You don't know what's in the box.
You cannot test the box.
There are many ideas that suggest there's something in the box.
The box might be empty.
An empty box is kinda sad.
It's a pleasant thought there's something in the box.
It's pleasant because people like having things over nothing.
The pleasant feeling stems from the survival instinct.
The survival instinct makes one feel good to acquire stuff for survival.
There exists an emotional bias that there is something in the box.
(Try it. Give someone a box. They're often delighted.)

The 'something in the box' thinking is what has lead people to believe
in God/Gods ever since the human brain began to handle abstract
concepts.
The universe is a big box and there's a God in it.
Delightful but not scientific.


--
D from BC
British Columbia
From: D from BC on
In article <kioss51rg39f6t222ahmbjcn9v89knb2u0(a)4ax.com>,
jonk(a)infinitefactors.org says...
> I think Jesus was pretty explicit. He was asked, he
> answered. He then used the situation as a parable, as well,
> about the likelihood of people who own stuff to get into
> heaven. He's not equivocal about it.
>
> >If I gave all my stuff to you and you gave all your stuff to me and then
> >I gave all your stuff to somebody else then everybody will end up with
> >all the wrong stuff!
>
> hehe. Ah, but he said to sell it and give the proceeds to
> the poor, not just give the stuff away! (Matthew 19:21..)
>

New Living Translation (�2007)
<< Matthew 19:21 >>
Jesus told him, "If you want to be perfect, go and sell all your
possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure
in heaven. Then come, follow me."

A work around is if a kid sells all his toys and gives the money to the
poor.
When the kid grows up and becomes a billionaire, he has already sold all
his belongings (The cheap toys).
He doesn't have to give away billions of dollars of possessions to get
the treasure from heaven.

Or perhaps it's not a one time action..


From: brent on
On Apr 21, 6:32 pm, D from BC <myrealaddr...(a)comic.com> wrote:

>
> Or perhaps it's not a one time action..

Are you talking about trolling?