From: JosephKK on 19 Apr 2010 06:40 On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:44:49 -0500, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:11:43 -0700, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> >wrote: > >>On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 05:53:15 -0500, "RogerN" <regor(a)midwest.net> wrote: >> >>> >>>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >>>news:la6bs5dnqimr5i58ipnsfasq1mb463998k(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:32:46 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>In article <0le7s5l2qar0dhudv03gl5qoph09cfno7d(a)4ax.com>, >>>>>jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >>>>>> >Believe or BANG!. (Or perhaps they go to Rogers 'Hell Lite' for >>>>>> >slightly >>>>>> >evil people.) >>>>>> >What happens if you don't believe in Christ/God? >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Nothing. >>>>>> --- >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Then there's no reason to believe in Christ/God. >>>>>All you got is a story book useful in mollifying slaves. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You missed it, as usual. >>>> >>>> If you don't believe in God, nothing happens. >>>> >>>> It's when you _do_ believe that things start happening. >>>> >>>> JF >>> >>>Right, >>> >>>D from BC: Show me and I'll believe. >>> >>>God: Believe and I'll show you. >>> >>>RogerN >>> >> >>Sounds remarkably like 5 yo kids in the play ground. > >--- >Precocious kids, no? > >JF No. Spoiled brats.
From: D from BC on 20 Apr 2010 03:07 In article <JK-dnS1vM5BtR1HWnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > Yet you're an Atheist, and you're ridiculous, I guess you believe in > nonsense. > > RogerN > Atheists know there's no God. Atheists know there's no God due to the low low low low probability of a an alien with superpowers that dictates 'think Jesus' or else no afterlife. God qualifies as a alien with superpowers due to being extremely different from people. Human to God differences are invisibility, matter creation, all seeing, all powerful and all knowing. If one is all seeing(omniscient), they're not human. Christian engineers are ridiculous in believing in a superalien that grants the afterlife only when the brain thinks a certain thought. That certain thought is 'I believe in Jesus'. God is discriminating and being a racist over just a thought. God is a thought racist. 66% of the worlds population will have no afterlife due to the absence of a thought. That missing thought is 'I believe in Jesus'. God's unfounded rule is that a petty little thought is required or else there will be the violent action of afterlife termination. The violent action of afterlife termination is threatening. When God makes a threat to get an action that is called coercion. God becomes extremist in resorting to coercion to force the little petty thought of 'I believe in Jesus'. Extremists act out of desperation. Desperation is often from lack. And what God lacks is real power. The only real power that God has is fear. God spreads fear by making the afterlife conditional upon indoctrination. Spreading fear is a form of terrorism. Terrorism is evil. Christianity is sustained by terrorism. Some Christian denominations believe it doesn't matter what you believe. One is judged and the method of judgment is not known. How ominous. iirc you(RogerN) wrote one gets a personal afterlife. The more good.. the better the afterlife. The more evil.. the more evil the afterlife. (paraphrased) Other Christian denominations believe nonbelievers go to full blown hell or go nowhere. Christian moderates tend to swing toward whatever makes a bright shiny halo. All good people go to heaven. Which is probably not found anywhere in the bible. But it's in the spirit of niceness and makes one warm and fuzzy to pretend that fairness is somewhere in that slave age bible. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: D from BC on 20 Apr 2010 04:41 In article <hjnps55a8l1lm3pvaegliperigqfsksfnl(a)4ax.com>, jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > --- > > > > nothing to do with it > Following that thread to its logical conclusion would force God to > become a servant to us and to exalt us above himself. > > In other words, to become our slave. > > > > > --- > Slave of the best kind. In a way parents are slaves to their children. They are slaves to responsibility. Parents are responsible for the heath and well being of their children. Normal parents would (if they knew how) heal their sick or injured kids. Parents with superpowers like God would heal their sick or injured kids. God would be kind to be a slave to responsibility. Lack of responsibility makes neglect. Neglect is cruel. Neglect is the kid left in the hot car with the windows rolled up. Even if true, God is ridiculous by doing nothing. Any God and all Gods are intrinsically evil by failing to show responsibility. Even the flying spaghetti monster and the invisible pink unicorn are evil by not showing responsibility. It's pointless to pray to an irresponsible God. An irresponsible God only does neglect. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: RogerN on 20 Apr 2010 06:51 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2636f288e8f604de9897e2(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <JK-dnS1vM5BtR1HWnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> Yet you're an Atheist, and you're ridiculous, I guess you believe in >> nonsense. >> >> RogerN >> > > Atheists know there's no God. > Atheists know there's no God due to the low low low low probability of a > an alien with superpowers that dictates 'think Jesus' or else no > afterlife. > God qualifies as a alien with superpowers due to being extremely > different from people. > Human to God differences are invisibility, matter creation, all seeing, > all powerful and all knowing. > If one is all seeing(omniscient), they're not human. > > Christian engineers are ridiculous in believing in a superalien that > grants the afterlife only when the brain thinks a certain thought. > That certain thought is 'I believe in Jesus'. > God is discriminating and being a racist over just a thought. > God is a thought racist. > 66% of the worlds population will have no afterlife due to the absence > of a thought. > That missing thought is 'I believe in Jesus'. > God's unfounded rule is that a petty little thought is required or else > there will be the violent action of afterlife termination. > The violent action of afterlife termination is threatening. > When God makes a threat to get an action that is called coercion. > God becomes extremist in resorting to coercion to force the little petty > thought of 'I believe in Jesus'. > Extremists act out of desperation. > Desperation is often from lack. > And what God lacks is real power. > The only real power that God has is fear. > God spreads fear by making the afterlife conditional upon > indoctrination. > Spreading fear is a form of terrorism. > Terrorism is evil. > Christianity is sustained by terrorism. > > > Some Christian denominations believe it doesn't matter what you believe. > One is judged and the method of judgment is not known. How ominous. > iirc you(RogerN) wrote one gets a personal afterlife. The more good.. > the better the afterlife. The more evil.. the more evil the afterlife. > (paraphrased) > Other Christian denominations believe nonbelievers go to full blown hell > or go nowhere. > Christian moderates tend to swing toward whatever makes a bright shiny > halo. All good people go to heaven. Which is probably not found anywhere > in the bible. But it's in the spirit of niceness and makes one warm and > fuzzy to pretend that fairness is somewhere in that slave age bible. > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia On Earth there are good places to live and bad places to live, some have it pretty good here on Earth while others are not so fortunate. Couldn't Hell be similar as far as worse and better areas? RogerN
From: RogerN on 19 Apr 2010 18:36
"D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2635a61a9fccac29897e1(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <3l1ns59hs5dnismh3vkdmoedb3vte2p1at(a)4ax.com>, > jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >> >A doctor is not all-seeing/all powerful. >> >> --- >> See, you just did it... >> >> That, then, is a valid comparison. yes? >> > > The only thing that compares well with God are all the other Gods > invented throughout history. > All the invented Gods have superpowers. > An all seeing/all powerful God has the capability of being a superdoctor > everywhere at once. > A superdoctor that doesn't heal people violates the Hippocratic oath by > doing nothing whenever someone suffers from say malaria, AIDS or cancer. > 99% of time people want to live due to survival instinct. > Since the majority is pro-survival, the default action of a superdoctor > is to eliminate the malaria, AIDS or cancer. > It is most ethical to treat without coercion. > It's coercion when one has to make certain brain thoughts (Believe in > Jesus) or else the superdoctor(God) watching you 24/7 will do nothing. > It is unethical/discrimination for an allseeing superdoctor (God) to > refuse medical treatment if there is an incorrect pattern (other > religion) or absent pattern (no religion) in the brain. > > Even if true, God is ridiculous in violating the Hippocratic oath and > good Samaritan law by watching terminal cancer patients 24/7 and doing > nothing. > Christian engineers are ridiculous is believing in any nonsense as long > as there's an afterlife involved in the deal. > > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia Yet you're an Atheist, and you're ridiculous, I guess you believe in nonsense. RogerN |