From: D from BC on 16 Apr 2010 22:54 In article <-qKdnemgy9zgdlXWnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > If I understand, you'll believe only if your option to not believe is > removed? > > RogerN > > If you get hospital evidence of amputees getting the miracle of leg/arm/finger regrowth then you have evidence for the existence of the supernatural. God is in the supernatural category. A regrowth mutation must be ruled out due to DNA being used by most life forms. Spider and lobster amputees always get miracles. However, a human regrowth mutation does double duty for Christians. It's a miracle and it violates evolutionary theory. EVen if God exists, God is ridiculous in not making miracles for zero probability situations during an age with lots of video and camera equipment. REgrowth of limbs has zero probability. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: D from BC on 17 Apr 2010 03:50 In article <_4KdnSdLNpiaSlrWnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > > Found this for you: > But why should we allow the atheist to even use the Crusades and such as > evidence in their claim that most human suffering and death has been caused > by religion. It plainly is not true. > > What I want to do is offer a detailed listing of human death from the 18th > century through the 20th century and see if the claim is true. Yes, we'll > also look at the Crusades, the witch hunts and the Inquisition. > If you think atheists have the best body count in history then why are prisons with mostly religious prisoners? http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm The prisons are loaded with the religious. Catholics and protestants are dominant. Christian engineers are ridiculous in having the same religion as most of the prison population. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: D from BC on 17 Apr 2010 04:49 In article <32dbs5t3m3dh15vjv4nvk9hhjjktmut67k(a)4ax.com>, jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > >There is no complete literal or figurative consensus from 38000 > >Christian denominations. The bible has become a Rorschach blot. > > --- > Which has _what_ to do with whether you know the difference between > 'literal' and 'figurative'??? > > JF > Luke 12:47 New Living Translation (�2007) "And a servant who knows what the master wants, but isn't prepared and doesn't carry out those instructions, will be severely punished.' It's not known if 38000 Christian denominations take this literally or figuratively. If figuratively, then there has to be a consensus to verify if ones understanding is correct. The bible is ridiculous to apply figurative language for serious content. Example: Legal documents/contracts avoid figurative language. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: RogerN on 17 Apr 2010 05:15 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.263315dec0edeb9e9897dc(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <32dbs5t3m3dh15vjv4nvk9hhjjktmut67k(a)4ax.com>, > jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >> >There is no complete literal or figurative consensus from 38000 >> >Christian denominations. The bible has become a Rorschach blot. >> >> --- >> Which has _what_ to do with whether you know the difference between >> 'literal' and 'figurative'??? >> >> JF >> > > Luke 12:47 > New Living Translation (�2007) > "And a servant who knows what the master wants, but isn't prepared and > doesn't carry out those instructions, will be severely punished.' > > It's not known if 38000 Christian denominations take this literally or > figuratively. > If figuratively, then there has to be a consensus to verify if ones > understanding is correct. > > The bible is ridiculous to apply figurative language for serious > content. > > Example: > Legal documents/contracts avoid figurative language. > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia You take a single verse out of context, out of the middle of a parable. Here's the passage: Luke 12 35"Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36like men waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. I tell you the truth, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table and will come and wait on them. 38It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the second or third watch of the night. 39But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him." 41Peter asked, "Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?" 42The Lord answered, "Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45But suppose the servant says to himself, 'My master is taking a long time in coming,' and he then begins to beat the menservants and maidservants and to eat and drink and get drunk. 46The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers. 47"That servant who knows his master's will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked. Notice verse 41, Peter knew he was telling a parable, that is a story used to explain something else. Verse 48 explains it, less is required from those who have less and more is required from those who have been given more. Just like a boss expects more from his top paid engineer(s) than he does an inexperienced new hire, is this concept difficult for you? Probably not, but you must make an effort to misunderstand in order to support your religious beliefs. RogerN
From: RogerN on 17 Apr 2010 05:49
"Beryl" <fourl(a)road.net> wrote in message news:wrednchKaPsvrVTWnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d(a)posted.toastnet... >D from BC wrote: >> In article <-qKdnemgy9zgdlXWnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, >> regor(a)midwest.net says... >>> If I understand, you'll believe only if your option to not believe is >>> removed? >>> >>> RogerN >>> >>> >> >> If you get hospital evidence of amputees getting the miracle of >> leg/arm/finger regrowth then you have evidence for the existence of the >> supernatural. God is in the supernatural category. >> >> A regrowth mutation must be ruled out due to DNA being used by most life >> forms. Spider and lobster amputees always get miracles. >> >> However, a human regrowth mutation does double duty for Christians. It's >> a miracle and it violates evolutionary theory. >> >> EVen if God exists, God is ridiculous in not making miracles for zero >> probability situations during an age with lots of video and camera >> equipment. REgrowth of limbs has zero probability. > > C'mon, Roger already told about the time he was driving somewhere and > could'a got lost, but God guided him and he turned the right way! It was > a Miracle. > It wasn't a mater of a direction to turn, it was the road to turn on and the direction to turn. And it wasn't a mater of getting lost, it was to find the place I was supposed to go. But here's another example of God guiding someone. A group of missionaries were in traffic and not sure how to get to where they were supposed to be going so they began to pray for God to show them the way. A guy pulled up beside them in a Mercedes and asked if they needed help, they told him where they were trying to go, he said "follow me" and they followed him all they way to their destination. When they got there, they thanked the man for showing them the way, before he left, they asked if he was an angel and the guy just smiled. As he drove off in his Mercedes the car and driver just disappeared. Atheists are an authority on the Bible like a grandma's quilting group is an authority on electronics design. RogerN |