Can Christian Electronic Designers Design?
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From: John Fields on 26 Apr 2010 07:58 On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:13:14 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >In article <mtOdnYAbK4_GdE_WnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, >regor(a)midwest.net says... >> But from your perspective death is the end, from God's perspective death is >> no more serious than a runny nose. What is the ratio of someone >living 5 >> days compared to infinity versus 100 years compared to infinity? >> >> RogerN >> > >That idea devalues earth life and increases the value of the afterlife. >That might encourage Christians to just wait/long or look forward to >dying due to be being momentarily inconvenienced on earth by God. --- And once you've done _your_ time here, what do you have to look forward to? JF
From: D from BC on 27 Apr 2010 00:13 In article <erKdnZV_g-fxq0nWnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > A friend at work has a buddy that is a doctor that lives a few hours drive > from here. He visited his doctor buddy and they went to a football game > (Dallas vs. Kansas City IIRC). Anyway, something happened where someone was > injured, choking, or something like that, not life and death but could use a > doctor. My friend kept looking at his buddy the doctor wondering if he was > going to help, he didn't. My friend later inquired as to why the Doctor > didn't help the person in need, he couldn't because of insurance and laws. > If he helped, being a doctor, he could be sued. I'll take that as an example of how Christian beliefs/morals/ideas can poison/influence/corrupt US doctors. The God/Jesus belief/details in US doctors may manifest in reality. God has a plan. When God doesn't help someone, it's God's plan. When a doctor doesn't help someone, it's the doctors plan. God's plan is for the greater good. A doctor's plan is for the greater good. A doctor can do the greater good if he doesn't loose his license from a lawsuit. (If that's the worse that can happen.) If you're choking in front of a refusing doctor you become a sacrifice. A choking person is sacrificed for the greater good so the doctor can go on unsued to help others. It's like the Jesus sacrifice. Jesus sacrificed himself for the greater good (It wasn't for the greater bad. Jesus does more good by getting dead than staying alive.) The 'chokey' is sacrificed for the greater good so that an unsued doctor can go on to help others with insurance and with less legal risk. The needs of many outweigh the needs of the few. Meanwhile in other countries with some better ethics .... 'While U.S. laws focus on shielding from liability those who choose to help in a situation they did not cause, European laws criminalize failure to help in such a situation.[24] Nowadays, in Europe, people who do not help get convicted.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_samaritan_law Christian engineers are ridiculous to use God as role model for good. > > As far as the rest of the issues, why does the person need a miracle or need > God? If they didn't take care of the body God gave them, why should he fix > it without their asking? If someone gets ran over crossing a street, did > God tell them to cross the street? Were they crossing the street on a > missionary journey? God made his own decisions, didn't ask for advise from > you or me, being all knowing he was probably better qualified than we are. So God decides to do good by doing evil at times. (Including the evil by doing nothing.) An all watching God has a mystery reason/rule/decision to disrespect human ethics such as the Hippocratic oath and the good Samaritan law. It's evil by default when no reason is provided for breaking ethics. The default is evil due to the insanity of no reason being provided to break ethics. God's silence becomes evil. In Law Judge: Why did you kill that person? Killer: silence. Judge: Life in prison. Compare to: Judge: Why did you kill that person? Killer: I am God. See my power.. Zap! Judge: -dead- Judge 2: Good enough. Free to go. > One thing you seem to overlook is that God's kingdom is Heaven, not Earth. So God doesn't work here. IF you claim that God doesn't do anything on Earth, then there's no reason to pray. IF you claim that God doesn't do anything on Earth, then God doesn't do miracles. > As far as I know there are no sicknesses, diseases, or disabilities in > Heaven and I haven't heard of anyone needing prayer in Heaven. Perhaps you > think life on earth is supposed to be Heaven? > > RogerN > Heaven is the eternal intense overwhelming sense of happiness and wellbeing. If one feels that good, then there's no reason to do anything. If you want to feel heaven, do drugs... Try heroin! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin Christian engineers are ridiculous in looking forward to the afterlife where they feel so good that they become equivalent to useless heroin junkies for an eternity. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: D from BC on 27 Apr 2010 03:04 In article <rag9t5h3isj0qsqqs9j2sfsvavj8t8io4g(a)4ax.com>, jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > > On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:13:14 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> > wrote: > > >In article <mtOdnYAbK4_GdE_WnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > >regor(a)midwest.net says... > >> But from your perspective death is the end, from God's perspective death is > >> no more serious than a runny nose. What is the ratio of someone > >living 5 > >> days compared to infinity versus 100 years compared to infinity? > >> > >> RogerN > >> > > > >That idea devalues earth life and increases the value of the afterlife. > >That might encourage Christians to just wait/long or look forward to > >dying due to be being momentarily inconvenienced on earth by God. > > --- > And once you've done _your_ time here, what do you have to look forward > to? > > JF To being on earth. The molecules in my cells look forward to be free to go their separate ways. 60% of the water vapor from my body looks forward to blowing in the wind. Some of it may become rain, some of it may become drinking water and some of it may feed plants. The ammonia,carbon,salt,phosphorus and calcium in my body/brain look forward to taking part again in the ecology. I am of the earth and for the earth. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: D from BC on 27 Apr 2010 05:07 In article <eae9t59i67b133qpkahm3envu31bo8to17(a)4ax.com>, jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > >> that hate by talking yourself into believing that God doesn't exist: > >> "I mean, how could someone who allows babies to be raped by priests > >> exist?" and calling all who believe in God, fools, thereby exalting your > >> belief/non-belief set to the point where it can't be argued against. > >> > >> JF > >> > > > >Christian engineers are ridiculous to pray to God to stop God's evil(or > >God's evil agent) when it's obvious to omniscient God that you want the > >evil stopped. > > > >Don't pray..God knows. > > --- > How arrogant. > > You want everything handed to you on a silver platter by your slave, > God, and you don't even want to exhaust yourself by making the conscious > effort of asking for it. > > Yeah, you're a real prize... > > JF > > I want a capricious God to do a better job at being capricious. I want the spontaneous global eradication or malaria without prayer or asking. This malaria problem is costing atheist Bill Gates hundreds of millions of dollars. I want to see God do seemingly random acts of kindness that have zero probability. It shouldn't matter if it's prayed for or not due to God being capricious. I want at least a few amputees to grow arms and legs back. And I want some Muslim infants to tell their parents that the best religion for them is Christianity. God does much in the bible but doesn't do anything to write about these days. How strange. Christian engineers are ridiculous in that they have an active God in the bible whose actions were worthy to write about but now have an inactive God not worthy to write about. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: RogerN on 27 Apr 2010 06:42
"D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26402c52dda319349897fd(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <rag9t5h3isj0qsqqs9j2sfsvavj8t8io4g(a)4ax.com>, > jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >> >> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:13:14 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> >> wrote: >> >> >In article <mtOdnYAbK4_GdE_WnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, >> >regor(a)midwest.net says... >> >> But from your perspective death is the end, from God's perspective >> >> death is >> >> no more serious than a runny nose. What is the ratio of someone >> >living 5 >> >> days compared to infinity versus 100 years compared to infinity? >> >> >> >> RogerN >> >> >> > >> >That idea devalues earth life and increases the value of the afterlife. >> >That might encourage Christians to just wait/long or look forward to >> >dying due to be being momentarily inconvenienced on earth by God. >> >> --- >> And once you've done _your_ time here, what do you have to look forward >> to? >> >> JF > > To being on earth. > The molecules in my cells look forward to be free to go their separate > ways. > 60% of the water vapor from my body looks forward to blowing in the > wind. Some of it may become rain, some of it may become drinking water > and some of it may feed plants. > The ammonia,carbon,salt,phosphorus and calcium in my body/brain look > forward to taking part again in the ecology. > I am of the earth and for the earth. > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia And then you'll be a better electronic designer? :-) RogerN |