From: krw on
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:39:14 -0700, Dr. Heywood R. Floyd
<Heywood(a)thebarattheendofthemonolith.org> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:41:20 -0500, "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
>>
>>Someone (likely a suit) thinks. Last I heard they were going to get help
>>(cooking the books?) from NASA.
>
>
> You do realize that NASA were the pioneers in catastrophic event scene
>forensics. There were quite a large number of launch vehicle failures
>before one was ever arrived at that they put a man on top of.

They're also now well known for cooking books, DimBulb. Sorry, NASA is
permanently tarnished.

<snipped the rest of AlwaysWrong's always wrong assertions>
From: D from BC on
In article <8aidndO6ZczjnSnWnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
regor(a)midwest.net says...
>
> "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.261d9d0275b3d1498973c(a)209.197.12.12...
> > No firmament(biblize) does not seem the same as space.
> >
> > 'The Firmament is the usual English translation of the Hebrew "raqiya`"
> > (pronounced /raki'ja/ in English) meaning an extended solid surface or
> > dome, considered to be a hemisphere above the ground[1] in many Near
> > Eastern cosmologies.'
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament
> >
> > You'll see this word used in Genesis. (Where you will learn zero about
> > physics.)
> >
> > It really looks God didn't tell those Bronze age bible monkeys about
> > astronomy.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > D from BC
> > British Columbia
>
> Did God need to tell them about astronomy? Might have been as useful to
> them as a book on Windows for Workgroups 3.11.
>
> RogerN

Astronomy content would be evidence of a creator.
Example:
If someone asked
'Jesus' Jesus Jesus...I said... Yo Jesus.. What's the fastest thing in
the universe?
Jesus: God is.
'No no I mean what is the fastest thing on earth?'
Jesus: God is.
'No no ..I mean what is the fastest observable natural thing on earth.'
Jesus: Light.
'You mean the light I see.'
Jesus: Yup.. Light a fire and the light from the fire travels very fast.
'How fast?'
Jesus: Do you want to know for in air or in a vacuum?
'What's air or a vacuum?'
anyways..

Put that in the bible and it would be good evidence of a God cause only
a God would know that in the Bronze age.



--
D from BC
British Columbia
From: D from BC on
In article <e82dnbi9zKkHYy7WnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
regor(a)midwest.net says...
>
> "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.261c26f5d5a8546d989733(a)209.197.12.12...
> > Roger...
> > Larkin has faith in God but wrote recently that he makes no claim that
> > God exists.
> > Does he believe in God or not?
> > Is he just wishing for a God? Or is his believing in God/Jesus for a
> > ticket to heaven.
> >
>
> He seemed pretty clear on it but you seem to have muddied up what he wrote.

Larkin posted that there are very intelligent engineers and
mathematicians that are Christian.
This is a defense for Christianity.
Then Larkin posts that he made no claim that God exists.
He might still believe in God or have faith in God.
Example: I can believe in leprechauns because I can believe whatever I
want to believe however I make no claim leprechauns exist because I have
no evidence. Because I have no evidence for leprechauns, I have faith in
leprechauns.
Which raises the question.. Is Larkin atheist, agnostic, theist or
other..
Only God knows.. :P


>
>
> > And..
> >
> > What are your reasons as to why there's a God?
> >
> > Just following the herd?
> > Just believing fantastic stories in one book?
> > Just like the music in church?
> >
> >
> > --
> > D from BC
> > British Columbia
>
> None of the above. But if you're interested why not look up why other

Dodging..

> Atheists have became believers, you may find that they once believed
almost
> exactly as you and then find out what caused a change in what they
believed.
> Also, I found out today that there are some Pastors of churches that are
> Atheists. Over the years I've heard from a professor that taught evolution
> in a college and was an Atheist, now he believes in God and sees problems
> with the theory of evolution.
>
> RogerN

The problem with evolution is that it makes God look clumsy for making
17 000 attempts at trilobite design and them wiping them all out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilobites


--
D from BC
British Columbia


From: John Devereux on
Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLever(a)InfiniteSeries.Org> writes:

> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:27:39 -0700, John Larkin
> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
>>It's not certainty to me, but it's sure suspicious that Earth is such
>>an improbably beautiful place, and that we are alive now. The
>>probability of those things happening is so close to zero that it
>>doesn't matter.
>
> Or that we are positioned in our solar system in such a way as to have
> the right mix of weather, and Jupiter does a good job of keeping the
> debris left over from the solar system construction away from us. What
> would this planet have been like without a large, massive orb out there
> to sweep up the mess?
>
> Do the atheists call that "dumb luck"?

They call it the Anthropic Principle

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle>

That is any observer will, by definition, "find themselves" in a
universe and location suitable for life.


--

John Devereux
From: Bill Sloman on
On Apr 1, 2:47 am, "JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:10:58 -0700, John Larkin <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> >On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 01:33:47 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman
> ><bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >>On Mar 30, 5:40 am, "David L. Jones" <altz...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> D from BC wrote:
> >>> > mmm sseems a little quiet in SED so...
> >>> > Time for another mega-troll.
>
> >>> > Are Christian beliefs in conflict with good electronics engineering?
>
> >>> There appears to be no evidence that delusion and electronics design ability
> >>> are mutually exclusive.
>
> >>Jim Thompson believes in the Republicans. That's pretty much the same
> >>level of silliness.
>
> >Bill Slomanproves that dreary realism isn't necessarily associated
> >with electronic design ability.
>
> >John
>
> If you has used socialism instead of realism, you might have had a point.  
> Slowman is immune to reason.

I'm immune to what right-wingers fondly believe to be "reason" which
is the endless repetition of their own favourite opinion, totally
unsupported by any independently verifiable facts.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen