From: John Larkin on 31 Mar 2010 21:39 On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:32:27 -0700 (PDT), brent <bulegoge(a)columbus.rr.com> wrote: >On Mar 31, 8:23�pm, "JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:26:26 -0500, "RogerN" <re...(a)midwest.net> wrote: >> >> >"John Larkin" <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >> >news:a524r51rn73jjudigj69jkd5et7tqorrjo(a)4ax.com... >> >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:41:56 -0700, Mr.Eko >> >> <ekointhed...(a)lostisland.org> wrote: >> >> >>>On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:02:57 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddr...(a)comic.com> >> >>>wrote: >> >> >>>>If I got this right... >> >>>>The reason why you believe in God is because it works for those that >> >>>>believe in God. >> >>>>uhh.. That's too ambiguous for me.. >> >>>>I'm understanding that as: The reason why you believe in God is because >> >>>>others believe in God. >> >>>>Correct? >> >> >>> �It appears that you have never had a beautiful, wonderful, early >> >>>morning, early spring walk through a flowering Western US desert or >> >>>Eastern US woodland. >> >> >>> �That would be a mere two of the reasons why an observer of such wonders >> >>>becomes certain that it is the result of creation. >> >> >> It's not certainty to me, but it's sure suspicious that Earth is such >> >> an improbably beautiful place, and that we are alive now. The >> >> probability of those things happening is so close to zero that it >> >> doesn't matter. >> >> >> Consider living near the triple point of water: clouds, rivers, snow, >> >> all at the same time. >> >> >> Consider the neatly separated minerals for the taking, and the >> >> fuel/oxidizer in abundance. Consider the clear atmosphere, dense >> >> enough for flight but clear enough that we can see the stars. >> >> >> I bet D from BC is unimpressed. >> >> >> John >> >> >It takes more faith to believe D from BC is an electronics designer, doesn't >> >it? �:-) >> >> >I've heard a lot of people say they asked God that if he exists to let them >> >know and somehow or other God revealed himself to them. �It didn't come that >> >easy for me, I desparately searched for God for days that turned into weeks, >> >but I did find evidences enough, and in abundance, to believe in God. >> >> >You hear today stuff like "follow the money" claiming religion is only about >> >the money, and it's hard to argue with because in many instances it is true. >> >But at one time, to be a believer in Jesus meant probable death. �You have >> >to get past the TV preachers and those who are in it for the money, you have >> >to get one on one with God. �Most of the disciples were killed because of >> >their faith in Jesus, if anyone would know the truth, they would, and they >> >were willing to hold to their faith even though it cost their life. �If it >> >were false, they wouldn't have been willing to die for something they knew >> >was a lie. >> >> >A Romanian missionary that spoke at our church on several occasions walked >> >out of then communist Romania by following a pillar of light. �On multiple >> >occasions this guy was picked up by the KGB and beaten because he was a >> >servant of God, he paid the penalty to be a believer, that's the kind of >> >person God moves for to deliver. >> >> >Jesus was who he was and did what he did, but he gave his power to those who >> >believe in him. �Read Acts, the disciples were able to do what Jesus did, >> >just like Jesus promised in the Gospel according to John. >> >> >So, you have the Bible foretelling and foreshadowing Jesus a long time >> >before he came, then you have Jesus that came and fulfilled the prophesies >> >about himself, then the disciples that died because they told about Jesus, >> >and many martyrs since. �Or you can believe this dipsh*t called DfromBC that >> >does good to turn on a flashlight and is incapable of much of anything else. >> >Sorry D, is your first name Dipsh*t? >> >> >RogerN >> >> Shame on you for dropping below his level. �You are doing your case damage >> by starting name calling. > >Roger, > >I have engaged in discussion with D from BC before. He is not >intellectually honest in his arguments even though he would like you >to believe that his liberation from belief in God has made him >intellectually superior to Christians. > He's not intellectually superior to an earthworm. At least earthworms are useful. John
From: RogerN on 31 Mar 2010 21:44 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.261c2c65e931a52d989737(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <1eGdncaW2629Hy_WnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> >> "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message >> news:MPG.261bd98d80dd189b989729(a)209.197.12.12... >> > In article <P6-dnZrBv_GGRCzWnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, >> > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> >> >> >> "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message >> >> news:MPG.261b13c0a41db4f8989720(a)209.197.12.12... >> >> > Are you saying that death by Spanish Inquisition, Crusades and witch >> >> > hunts were ok because there's so much more death throughout history? >> >> >> >> Nope >> >> >> >> > Do you realize the reasoning you're using can be used to tone down >> >> > any >> >> > atrocity. >> >> > >> >> >> >> I can't answer for what anyone else did or does, but I have seen over >> >> and >> >> over Atheists blaming the majority of deaths on religion and it's >> >> simply >> >> a >> >> lie. So, what's the true tally? Something like deaths from Atheism >> >> 95%, >> >> deaths from religion 5%? >> >> >> >> RogerN >> > >> > Is this going to make you believe atheists are evil blood thirsty >> > psychopathic killers that would be happy in watching Christians suffer >> > in Christian death camps using environmentally friendly solar power? >> > >> > Here's an interesting video with visuals of Christianity + Nazi >> > history. >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvmsieqUyOo >> > >> > What wars do you know of that 'Death to Christians' was the sole >> > motivator for war? >> > >> >> Nope, as usual, wrong again. Maybe you should stick to power supplies? >> How >> bout batteries, are they too complex for you? >> >> RogerN > > Specify what is wrong.. You gave no reason and and you put a cherry on > it in the form of a personal attack. You're making bullshit not reason. > I'll ask again... > What wars do you know of that 'Death to Christians' was the sole > motivator for war? > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia Personal attack? What do you call attacking electronic designers for their personal belief in God? I don't know of any wars where the Death to Christians was the sole motivator, but I haven't really looked into it. But there have been a lot of killing where death to Christians was the sole motivator. But to explain something about faith. For example, if you go to a doctor that you know and trust, and he tells you that you have cancer, you may not feel it or have any symptoms, but if you believe your doctor is trustworthy, then you may believe him that you have cancer and respond accordingly. So, you are believing what the doctor told you even though you don't have any evidence other than the doctors word. If the doctor is correct you soon will have the symptoms. God is the same way, if you trust him you will believe him and your response gets results. If a stranger tells you something strange you likely won't believe them, however if you hear the same thing from a trusted friend you are more likely to believe it. BTW, I'm interested in SMPS's too, I'm interested in motor drives and I have a battery charger design I've been wanting to do for some 10+ years. Electronic design for me is a hobby because I find it more interesting and challenging than my occupation but it's hard to spend much time with the hobbies when I can make 1.5 X pay overtime. For the battery charger I need to be able to charge from 1.2V up to ~40V from a single 12V DC source and accurately measure and control the voltage and current from a microcontroller. Sorry for the personal attack but like I told mom, you started it! :-) RogerN
From: D from BC on 31 Mar 2010 21:55 No firmament(biblize) does not seem the same as space. 'The Firmament is the usual English translation of the Hebrew "raqiya`" (pronounced /raki'ja/ in English) meaning an extended solid surface or dome, considered to be a hemisphere above the ground[1] in many Near Eastern cosmologies.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament You'll see this word used in Genesis. (Where you will learn zero about physics.) It really looks God didn't tell those Bronze age bible monkeys about astronomy. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: RogerN on 31 Mar 2010 22:01 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.261c26f5d5a8546d989733(a)209.197.12.12... > Roger... > Larkin has faith in God but wrote recently that he makes no claim that > God exists. > Does he believe in God or not? > Is he just wishing for a God? Or is his believing in God/Jesus for a > ticket to heaven. > He seemed pretty clear on it but you seem to have muddied up what he wrote. > And.. > > What are your reasons as to why there's a God? > > Just following the herd? > Just believing fantastic stories in one book? > Just like the music in church? > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia None of the above. But if you're interested why not look up why other Atheists have became believers, you may find that they once believed almost exactly as you and then find out what caused a change in what they believed. Also, I found out today that there are some Pastors of churches that are Atheists. Over the years I've heard from a professor that taught evolution in a college and was an Atheist, now he believes in God and sees problems with the theory of evolution. RogerN
From: RogerN on 31 Mar 2010 22:09
"D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.261d9d0275b3d1498973c(a)209.197.12.12... > No firmament(biblize) does not seem the same as space. > > 'The Firmament is the usual English translation of the Hebrew "raqiya`" > (pronounced /raki'ja/ in English) meaning an extended solid surface or > dome, considered to be a hemisphere above the ground[1] in many Near > Eastern cosmologies.' > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament > > You'll see this word used in Genesis. (Where you will learn zero about > physics.) > > It really looks God didn't tell those Bronze age bible monkeys about > astronomy. > > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia Did God need to tell them about astronomy? Might have been as useful to them as a book on Windows for Workgroups 3.11. RogerN |