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From: JosephKK on 31 Mar 2010 19:46 On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:04:33 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >I saw a stat that BC has the largest % of atheism in Canada. >11% in BC. >According to Christians(not all 38000 denominations) means that 11% of >BC are certain to burn in hell along with about 66% of the world >population that are non-Christian. >By the numbers, God is more in the business punishing people for >eternity. >Sure.. a few goodies go to heaven but God is mostly into toasting >billions (66% of iirc 8billion) of different faiths and skeptics. >What a nice guy... :P Damn, you couldn't read Revelations correctly, 2/3 get wiped preemptively twice and then only 1 in 10 make it; about 1 %.
From: JosephKK on 31 Mar 2010 19:51 On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:29:15 -0800, Robert Baer <robertbaer(a)localnet.com> wrote: >richard wrote: >> D from BC wrote: >>> I saw a stat that BC has the largest % of atheism in Canada. >>> 11% in BC. >>> According to Christians(not all 38000 denominations) means that 11% of >>> BC are certain to burn in hell along with about 66% of the world >>> population that are non-Christian. >>> By the numbers, God is more in the business punishing people for >>> eternity. >>> Sure.. a few goodies go to heaven but God is mostly into toasting >>> billions (66% of iirc 8billion) of different faiths and skeptics. >>> What a nice guy... :P >>> >> >> :-) >> >> Yes, I was taught (by Catholic priests) of "baptism by blood" and >> "baptism of desire" and that an uneducated savage would not necessarily >> be condemned to an afterlife in the fires of hell for eternity - see >> following quote from http://www.stgenesius.com/baptismofblood.html >> >> "It must also be understood that in Catholic teaching those who are not >> baptized and not members of the Church are not necessarily lost or >> excluded from heaven: if they do not know or believe in Christ or his >> teaching through no fault of their own, but live good lives according to >> their understanding, God in his mercy will not exclude them". >> >> But perhaps other denominations are not so liberal. > Maybe Catholics can afford to be liberal since they defy and abuse >the first commandment... The last i looked that one is "Thou shalt have no gods before me." Is that what you mean? Coveting is usually sixth. Adultery is usually fourth.
From: JosephKK on 31 Mar 2010 20:23 On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:26:26 -0500, "RogerN" <regor(a)midwest.net> wrote: > >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >news:a524r51rn73jjudigj69jkd5et7tqorrjo(a)4ax.com... >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:41:56 -0700, Mr.Eko >> <ekointhedirt(a)lostisland.org> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:02:57 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>If I got this right... >>>>The reason why you believe in God is because it works for those that >>>>believe in God. >>>>uhh.. That's too ambiguous for me.. >>>>I'm understanding that as: The reason why you believe in God is because >>>>others believe in God. >>>>Correct? >>> >>> >>> It appears that you have never had a beautiful, wonderful, early >>>morning, early spring walk through a flowering Western US desert or >>>Eastern US woodland. >>> >>> That would be a mere two of the reasons why an observer of such wonders >>>becomes certain that it is the result of creation. >> >> It's not certainty to me, but it's sure suspicious that Earth is such >> an improbably beautiful place, and that we are alive now. The >> probability of those things happening is so close to zero that it >> doesn't matter. >> >> Consider living near the triple point of water: clouds, rivers, snow, >> all at the same time. >> >> Consider the neatly separated minerals for the taking, and the >> fuel/oxidizer in abundance. Consider the clear atmosphere, dense >> enough for flight but clear enough that we can see the stars. >> >> I bet D from BC is unimpressed. >> >> John > >It takes more faith to believe D from BC is an electronics designer, doesn't >it? :-) > >I've heard a lot of people say they asked God that if he exists to let them >know and somehow or other God revealed himself to them. It didn't come that >easy for me, I desparately searched for God for days that turned into weeks, >but I did find evidences enough, and in abundance, to believe in God. > >You hear today stuff like "follow the money" claiming religion is only about >the money, and it's hard to argue with because in many instances it is true. >But at one time, to be a believer in Jesus meant probable death. You have >to get past the TV preachers and those who are in it for the money, you have >to get one on one with God. Most of the disciples were killed because of >their faith in Jesus, if anyone would know the truth, they would, and they >were willing to hold to their faith even though it cost their life. If it >were false, they wouldn't have been willing to die for something they knew >was a lie. > >A Romanian missionary that spoke at our church on several occasions walked >out of then communist Romania by following a pillar of light. On multiple >occasions this guy was picked up by the KGB and beaten because he was a >servant of God, he paid the penalty to be a believer, that's the kind of >person God moves for to deliver. > >Jesus was who he was and did what he did, but he gave his power to those who >believe in him. Read Acts, the disciples were able to do what Jesus did, >just like Jesus promised in the Gospel according to John. > >So, you have the Bible foretelling and foreshadowing Jesus a long time >before he came, then you have Jesus that came and fulfilled the prophesies >about himself, then the disciples that died because they told about Jesus, >and many martyrs since. Or you can believe this dipsh*t called DfromBC that >does good to turn on a flashlight and is incapable of much of anything else. >Sorry D, is your first name Dipsh*t? > >RogerN > Shame on you for dropping below his level. You are doing your case damage by starting name calling.
From: Archimedes' Lever on 31 Mar 2010 20:28 On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:25:04 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman <bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote: >On Mar 31, 2:13�pm, Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLe...(a)InfiniteSeries.Org> >wrote: >> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:38:36 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman >> >> >> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: >> >On Mar 31, 1:47�am, John Larkin >> ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:06:12 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman >> >> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: >> >> >On Mar 30, 4:12�pm, John Larkin >> >> ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:40:43 +1100, "David L. Jones" >> >> >> >> <altz...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >D from BC wrote: >> >> >> >> mmm sseems a little quiet in SED so... >> >> >> >> Time for another mega-troll. >> >> >> >> >> Are Christian beliefs in conflict with good electronics engineering? >> >> >> >> >There appears to be no evidence that delusion and electronics design ability >> >> >> >are mutually exclusive. >> >> >> >> >Dave. >> >> >> >> Not as long as you're happy spinning the pcb etch four or five times, >> >> >> and shipping a lot of bugs. To get it right the first time, you can't >> >> >> lie to yourself about anything. >> >> >> >Your opinions about the way the genetic system might work did imply >> >> >that you were deceiving yourself pretty thorooughly in that area. >> >> >> Genetic science is, if anything, trending in the directions I >> >> expected. DNA and its supporting systems is indeed a very >> >> sophisticated, nearly intelligent machine, hardly a >> >> random-mutation+selection process. Evolution guarantees that it be so. >> >> >And you still don't get it. DNA doesn't know anything about itself, >> >merely whether the phoneme it has produced is good enough to survive >> >and reproduce. All the "sophistication" involves differernt ways of >> >doing the random mutation process - in big gene-duplicating chunks >> >versus single nuclear polymorphisms. >> >> >This is about as far from "intelligent" as one can get. >> >> � Nice guesses, but there is no conclusive proof for your claim either, >> yet you tout it and yourself as being the only viable "observation", and >> THAT IS as far from intelligence as it gets. No "about as" about it. > >Actually, it's straight-foward system engineering. You're a goddamned idiot. > If the genetic >mechanism hasn't got access to the relevant information, its got >nothing to be "intelligent" about Says YOU. 100% unfounded horseshit. > - which does seem to be a problem >that you enjoy exhibiting. Again, YOUR observations have all the credence of a freshly laid turd, SloTard.
From: brent on 31 Mar 2010 20:28
On Mar 31, 8:23 pm, "JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:26:26 -0500, "RogerN" <re...(a)midwest.net> wrote: > > >"John Larkin" <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message > >news:a524r51rn73jjudigj69jkd5et7tqorrjo(a)4ax.com... > >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:41:56 -0700, Mr.Eko > >> <ekointhed...(a)lostisland.org> wrote: > > >>>On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:02:57 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddr...(a)comic.com> > >>>wrote: > > >>>>If I got this right... > >>>>The reason why you believe in God is because it works for those that > >>>>believe in God. > >>>>uhh.. That's too ambiguous for me.. > >>>>I'm understanding that as: The reason why you believe in God is because > >>>>others believe in God. > >>>>Correct? > > >>> It appears that you have never had a beautiful, wonderful, early > >>>morning, early spring walk through a flowering Western US desert or > >>>Eastern US woodland. > > >>> That would be a mere two of the reasons why an observer of such wonders > >>>becomes certain that it is the result of creation. > > >> It's not certainty to me, but it's sure suspicious that Earth is such > >> an improbably beautiful place, and that we are alive now. The > >> probability of those things happening is so close to zero that it > >> doesn't matter. > > >> Consider living near the triple point of water: clouds, rivers, snow, > >> all at the same time. > > >> Consider the neatly separated minerals for the taking, and the > >> fuel/oxidizer in abundance. Consider the clear atmosphere, dense > >> enough for flight but clear enough that we can see the stars. > > >> I bet D from BC is unimpressed. > > >> John > > >It takes more faith to believe D from BC is an electronics designer, doesn't > >it? :-) > > >I've heard a lot of people say they asked God that if he exists to let them > >know and somehow or other God revealed himself to them. It didn't come that > >easy for me, I desparately searched for God for days that turned into weeks, > >but I did find evidences enough, and in abundance, to believe in God. > > >You hear today stuff like "follow the money" claiming religion is only about > >the money, and it's hard to argue with because in many instances it is true. > >But at one time, to be a believer in Jesus meant probable death. You have > >to get past the TV preachers and those who are in it for the money, you have > >to get one on one with God. Most of the disciples were killed because of > >their faith in Jesus, if anyone would know the truth, they would, and they > >were willing to hold to their faith even though it cost their life. If it > >were false, they wouldn't have been willing to die for something they knew > >was a lie. > > >A Romanian missionary that spoke at our church on several occasions walked > >out of then communist Romania by following a pillar of light. On multiple > >occasions this guy was picked up by the KGB and beaten because he was a > >servant of God, he paid the penalty to be a believer, that's the kind of > >person God moves for to deliver. > > >Jesus was who he was and did what he did, but he gave his power to those who > >believe in him. Read Acts, the disciples were able to do what Jesus did, > >just like Jesus promised in the Gospel according to John. > > >So, you have the Bible foretelling and foreshadowing Jesus a long time > >before he came, then you have Jesus that came and fulfilled the prophesies > >about himself, then the disciples that died because they told about Jesus, > >and many martyrs since. Or you can believe this dipsh*t called DfromBC that > >does good to turn on a flashlight and is incapable of much of anything else. > >Sorry D, is your first name Dipsh*t? > > >RogerN > > Shame on you for dropping below his level. You are doing your case damage > by starting name calling. |