Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Ben Dolan on 8 Jul 2008 23:31 rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: > > It looks to me like you might be in a few killfiles. > > Maybe. However, the fact remains that the equations I have show light > to be traveling at 186,000 miles per second in two different frames of > reference without the distance contraction that causes anything that > reaches the speed of light to have a length of 0 in the Lorentz > equations. Scientists definitely do not want to discuss those > equations. Oh, right... I haven't been here for a while. You're the Lorentz equations idiot, I remember now. Still flogging that nonsense, child?
From: Ben Dolan on 8 Jul 2008 23:31 rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: > Well, great personalities like Hitler and Stalin are going to have > trouble after this life because they did not repent of their sins. I > would rather be an insignificant figure who has repented of sins. Well, Bobby, you have nothing to worry about then. You absolutely are an insignificant figure...
From: Ben Dolan on 8 Jul 2008 23:45 rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: > There were some atheists who said Harry Potter went on the train from > London to wizard's school. And once again, child, you have confused fiction with reality...
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on 9 Jul 2008 00:58 On Jul 8, 7:20 pm, rich...(a)rmeredith.co.uk (Richard Meredith) wrote: > In article > <5392b914-4e96-4a67-a3ab-453aa9bcc...(a)27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > > hhyaps...(a)gmail.com () wrote: > > You are banking on a philosophical context, or approach. > > When we talk about evidence, we are then sure of things or event or > > happening. Anything solid in this world would have the possibility of > > a definition. > > But a god...can you provide a definition and his existence? > > You very well know that a heaven and hell thing are the invention of > > human imagination and yet you believe we should not doubt them? > > I don't *know* any such thing, though I'm quite happy to admit it as > possibility, even a strong likelihood. The reason I don't know whether > they're a reality or a figment of the imagination is simply that there is > no evidence pointing either way. > > > And the god is showering this world with diseases, right? Why is that? > > I'll leave that one for the theologians. I'm not arguing for the God > hypothesis, just pointing out that it is one that has not been either > proven or disproven. > > The similarity between atheists and theists is not what they believe, but > their willingness to insist that they have a monopoly on the truth, > despite their inability to provide any proof or even decent evidence > either way. Wrong. Atheists don't (generally) insist on their version of truth (whatever that is). What they do ask, is that someone provide evidence for strange claims. No one's saying "You must accept blah" from the atheist camp. What we're saying is "That thing you believe in is unsupported by any evidence, so we don't believe it" The rest is just science. Al
From: rbwinn on 9 Jul 2008 02:11
On Jul 8, 4:46�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "The Loan Arranger" <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in messagenews:wuadnQdHl4vUtu7VnZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > > Steve O wrote: > >> All we said was that, contrary to your claim that the crucifixion was the > >> work of the devil, the crucifixion was essential for the redemption of > >> sin, therefore Judas did the world a favour. > > > Until quite some time after the event, Judas was considered to have done > > Jesus a favour, by agreeing reluctantly to hand him over, according to > > Jesus's wishes. > > I remember that as something told to me at school, by the monks who ran the > school. > Something about some kind of request that was whispered into Judas's ear > during the Last Supper, apparently. > Not sure if this is part of mainstream Catholic doctrine or something they > just dreamt up. > > > > > It was only when the evolving church needed an antihero that Judas's role > > was recast from tragic hero to traitor. > > Looks like those monks were behind the times, then. > > -- > Steve O Jesus told Judas at the last supper that he knew he was going to betray him. He also told John that Judas was going to betray him. Robert B. Winn |