Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 21 Jun 2008 13:30 On Jun 21, 4:18 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jun 20, 3:58 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jun 19, 7:48�am, Ye Old One <use...(a)mcsuk.net> wrote: > >>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:56:42 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >>>> enriched this group when s/he wrote: > >>>>> On Jun 18, 6:01?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:29:16 -0700 (PDT), "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA > >>>>>> Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>> On Jun 19, 8:19 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 12:10 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>> You say all this on the basis of absolutely no evidence. > >>>>>>>> OK, so once again you are saying that the earthen ramp and Hezekiah's > >>>>>>>> tunnel do not exist because there is no evidence of the Assyrian > >>>>>>>> invasion of Judea. ?Well, what about the pillar in Ninevah with > >>>>>>>> Sennacherib's account? ?Are you saying that does not exist also? > >>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>> Do you ever stay on topic? ?Have you finished accusing people of > >>>>>>> saying things they didn't? > >>>>>> Isn't it amazing how completely dishonest he is in his reading of what > >>>>>> others say? > >>>>> The topic was the Assyrian invasion of Judea. �An atheist said there > >>>>> was absolutely no evidence of this topic. > >>>> Who? When? > >>>>> I was saying there was. > >>>> But little of it matches up with the characters of the fictionalized > >>>> biblical version. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> -- > >>>> Bob.- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> The Biblical version is obviously the true one. > >> Obviously how?- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Well, I have gone through that several times, so I see no reason to do > > it again. > > It seems you just pick the account that best accords with your > religion's doctrines.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - It may seem like that to an atheist with an agenda to stamp out Christianity. So tell me something, why would it make any difference to you which account I pick? Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 21 Jun 2008 13:32 On Jun 21, 4:22 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jun 20, 4:37 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jun 20, 2:40 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jun 20, 5:34 am, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jun 19, 5:55 am, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Well, go ahead and talk about God, but I can tell you ahead of time, > >>>>>>>>> you do not know anything about God. No atheist does. > >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>> nahh...we'll discus what we want...you choose your fiction..and > >>>>>>>> that's all you have been expressing faith in..nothing else...and we'll > >>>>>>>> point out our fiction...and we won't base a worldview on our inability > >>>>>>>> to deal with reality like you do....Don't like it? Pray for > >>>>>>>> us...otherwise..tough... > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the > >>>>>>>> question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it > >>>>>>>> right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is > >>>>>>>> neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one > >>>>>>>> it is right. > >>>>>>>> Martin Luther king Jr.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>> Well, people would do better if they learned to do their own praying. > >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>> Thinking is preferred by everyone else here..it actually does > >>>>>> something... > >>>>> Well, so you think that you can destroy Christianity. That was what > >>>>> this conversation was about when it began. That was why I was > >>>>> pointing out that the Bible was the best selling book in the world. > >>>>> Not so, said atheists. Harry Potter is the best selling book in the > >>>>> world. > >>>> That's a bit melodramatic, isn't it? I'm just interested in your beliefs > >>>> and how they're rationalised. Destroying Christianity is a ridiculous > >>>> aspiration, you'd constantly be disappointed!- Hide quoted text - > >>> So why do atheists have schools teaching that Christianity is false? > >>> If they do not have the aspiration, why are they trying to do it? > >> Do we? What schools? What fresh hell is this?!- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Public schools. > > Could you explain how they teach that Christianity is false?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The same way Darrell Stek does. They promote the teachings of modern atheists and claim that anything written about Christ is fiction. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 21 Jun 2008 13:36 On Jun 21, 7:59 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:1f62d629-c363-4da7-9dfb-e564fb275e38(a)e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Jun 21, 4:03 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >> > On Jun 20, 3:25 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>> On Jun 18, 11:45 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>> On Jun 18, 12:13�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>news:87b0e53d-5a57-49b1-b3d0-a331560793fb(a)c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > >> >>>>>>> On Jun 17, 10:37 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>>news:d6db0a86-413e-4057-a2cf-40363e9b8a34(a)a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > >> >>>>>>>>> Well some people might not be convinced by your video footage. > >> >>>>>>>>> There > >> >>>>>>>>> are many people who believe that the Apollo moon landings were > >> >>>>>>>>> faked. > >> >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >> >>>>>>>> It's not my fault if other people have mental health problems or > >> >>>>>>>> are > >> >>>>>>>> gullible enough to swallow any wild- assed claim they come > >> >>>>>>>> across. > >> >>>>>>>> Anyway, if my video footage is insufficient evidence, what makes > >> >>>>>>>> your > >> >>>>>>>> 2,000 > >> >>>>>>>> year old book o' blood and that silly Mormon bible more > >> >>>>>>>> convincing? > >> >>>>>>> Well, you atheists did not do very well with regard to the > >> >>>>>>> Assyrian > >> >>>>>>> invasion of Judea. > >> >>>>>> I can assure you we had absolutely nothing to do with it. > >> >>>>>>> The Bible seems to have its facts a lot straighter > >> >>>>>>> than you atheists do. > >> >>>>>> There are very few facts in the bible at all. > >> >>>>>> It is a magic story based around real (and sometimes non- > >> >>>>>> existent ) > >> >>>>>> locations. > >> >>>>>>> Was there some other specific thing that you > >> >>>>>>> atheists wanted to discuss? > >> >>>>>> How about your inability to differentiate fantasy from reality? > >> >>>>> I think I do fairly well. Hezekiah's tunnel is real. The earthen > >> >>>>> ramp over the city wall at Lachish is real. Harry Potter is not > >> >>>>> real. > >> >>>> Ah, but London is! Is the Bible? It may be, we haven't refuted > >> >>>> anything > >> >>>> yet. But your logic is not supportive of your claims.- Hide quoted > >> >>>> text - > >> >>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >>> I actually know a man from London, England. I make doors and window > >> >>> frames for him sometimes. He soes not believe in Harry Potter either. > >> >> Then how can you logically deny that London even exists?!- Hide quoted > >> >> text - > > >> > Actually Harry Potter is what does not exist. I know this will come > >> > as a shock to the atheist community. > > >> It's your logic, you defend it!- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > It does not need defended.  Harry Potter either exists or he does > > not.  You are free to believe he exists if that is what you want to > > do. > > Robert B. Winn > > If you think that Harry Potter is fiction then you must also think that > London doesn't exist right? > You'd better tell that to all of the people who live there, it may come as a > surprise to them. > It was your idea. Why don't you tell them? Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 21 Jun 2008 13:38 On Jun 21, 8:16�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote in message > > news:6c4ja8F3erpl2U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > > > If you think that Harry Potter is fiction then you must also think that > > London doesn't exist right? > > You'd better tell that to all of the people who live there, it may come as > > a surprise to them. > > Like the esteemed Mr Winn Esq, London councils have no doubt whatsoever > about the existence of London. �At least, that is what they profess when > they send out council tax demands. Taxes. Well, that is something that should convince some atheists. Taxes are something they will never deny. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 21 Jun 2008 13:39
On Jun 21, 8:19�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:5de9de62-15db-436d-a09c-db8e21818eef(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > Well, no. �Neither Stuart Dowling nor I suscribe to sorcery. > Atheists, on the other hand always have something about sorcery in > their signatures and nicknames similar to Ku Klux Klan members. > > ========== > > Do I now ... amazingly, I never noticed. > Would you be so kind and point out these features about my nanem and > signature? > Or is it something invisible which I will only be able to see using my > special-issue super-sikrit decoder ring? Well, actually, Darrell Stec has yours included with his, since you support everything Darrell Stec says. Robert B. winn |