Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 20 Jul 2008 13:22 On Jul 20, 9:53�am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:59:38 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >On Jul 20, 6:43?am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:30:13 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> wrote: > > >> >> > Maybe some of the other atheists > >> >> > could tell you why they do it. > > >> >> Because they want to. > > >> >> -- > >> >> ****************************************************** > >> >> * ? ? ? ? ?DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 ? ? ? ? ? ?* > >> >> *----------------------------------------------------* > >> >> * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * > >> >> * ?wants them to do because I notice it always ? ? ? * > >> >> * ?coincides with their own desires." ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?* > >> >> * ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --Susan B. Anthony * > >> >> ******************************************************- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >I never started. ?The only newsgroups I post to are sci.physics and > >> >sci.physics.relativity. > > >> Yet, here you are. You are posting twenty to thirty messages every > >> day, and yet claim you are not posting to alt.atheism. You won't > >> remove the newsgroup because you enjoy it so much. We are your opium, > >> and you are too stupid to realize it.- Hide quoted text - > > >Karl Marx said religion was your opium. �I do not use drugs of any > >kind. �That kind of accusation is only meaningful to people who use > >drugs. > > You are amazing. You use religion to be your opium, but are so stoned by > it that you do not recognize what you have done to yourself.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, I am just leaving for church right now. See you later. Robert B. Winn
From: DanielSan on 20 Jul 2008 13:24 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 20, 9:53 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 19, 10:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 19, 10:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 18, 5:46�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:de6a2c3f-ab55-434c-aa04-d37ddd084d82(a)26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 1:08 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 6:39?am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? ?This would be a first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheist. ?All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right. ?Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> million people. >>>>>>>>>>>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will >>>>>>>>>>>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog). >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the >>>>>>>>>>>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who >>>>>>>>>>>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes. >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that >>>>>>>>>>>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to >>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>> away from religion. >>>>>>>>>>>>> TLA >>>>>>>>>>>> So was this John Towland an atheist? >>>>>>>>>>> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog of >>>>>>>>>>> Hitler. >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular >>>>>>>>>>>> with the German people. His actions in his life show that he did not >>>>>>>>>>>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today. >>>>>>>>>>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who >>>>>>>>>>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've >>>>>>>>>>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and >>>>>>>>>>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this >>>>>>>>>>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more. >>>>>>>>>>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate >>>>>>>>>>> your humanity. >>>>>>>>>>> TLA- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it. Stalin and Pol Pot were >>>>>>>>>> both atheists. But politicians who killed large numbers of people >>>>>>>>>> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which >>>>>>>>>> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions. >>>>>>>>> Your vitriol against atheists is kinda cute in a psycho sort of way. >>>>>>>>> Where do I sign up for the genocides? I need to do my atheistic duty. Is >>>>>>>>> it the same place Mormons get their brains removed?- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>> All you have to do is vote for your pro-abortion politicians. >>>>>>>> ========================================== >>>>>>>> There aren't any pro-abortion politicians. >>>>>>>> Smiler, >>>>>>>> The godless one >>>>>>>> a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>> There aren't? >>>>>> No. >>>>>>> What happened to them? >>>>>> Nothing. They just don't exist. >>>>> Sort of like Hezekiah's tunnel? >>>> No. >>> I think it is. So you are saying that Barack Obama and Hillary >>> Clinton do not exist? >> They're not pro-abortion. >> > So why do they say they are pro-abortion? Cite? -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
From: Steve O on 20 Jul 2008 13:28 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:01aea64e-2210-4cfe-ae19-244a91576b3e(a)a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> >> Where did Jesus say it was immoral?- Hide quoted text - >> > Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least > commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in > the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same > shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. > Robert B. Winn Okay. So here Jesus is saying that all believers should follow ALL Old Testament Laws. Even the least of them. To the letter. Is that what YOU do? If your answer is yes, this could get interesting... -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
From: Free Lunch on 20 Jul 2008 13:41 On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:14:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: .... >Paul was an apostle, and whatever he said comes under the instruction >by Christ, Whether by my voice or the voice of my servants, it is the >same. But there is no evidence that Paul was a servant of God. That claim is completely unsubstantiated.
From: Free Lunch on 20 Jul 2008 13:44
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:21:31 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jul 20, 9:53�am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: .... >> > I think it is. �So you are saying that Barack Obama and Hillary >> > Clinton do not exist? >> >> They're not pro-abortion. >> >So why do they say they are pro-abortion? They don't. That is a lie you tell. |