Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 20 Jul 2008 17:39 On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a > >>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. > >>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic. > >>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again. > >>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... > >>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888? > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was > >>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer. > >>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in > >>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power. > >>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that. > >>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were > >>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the > >>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it > >>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not > >>> believe in the Communist Manifesto? > >> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He > >> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that > >> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you > >> and your bible...- Hide quoted text - > > > Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union.  It is well > > documented. > > And what's that got to do with atheism? > Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been a Christian by atheists of today. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 20 Jul 2008 17:44 On Jul 20, 9:59�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:85ce5d7c-67c2-4090-8fd1-14d9b48f203d(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > �There are only two commandments in the Law of Christ: > Love the Lord thy God, Love thy neighbor as thyself. > > ======== > > Sorry, but I draw the line at giving my neighbour hand jobs. > (as he will no doubt be relieved to hear). Anyone who engages in homosexuality does not love the other person, since he is contributing to that person's damnation. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 20 Jul 2008 17:47 On Jul 20, 10:09 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:c19d6f13-a331-4005-a158-46dcfecdec37(a)34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > >> >I do not have anything going at the present time. �Lawyers were the > >> >people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to > >> >trial by jury. > > >> That's odd, because my boss was just on a jury trial last month. I > >> guess that makes you a liar again, doesn't it?- Hide quoted text - > > > No, it does not.  The right to trial by jury no longer exists.  People > > who commit crimes serious enough to be profitable to lawyers are given > > the privilege of trial by jury.  That means if you commit a murder, > > you can have a lawyer and a trial by jury.  If you are arrested on > > misdemeanor charges by police who have decided to harrass you, you > > cannot get a trial by jury even though the Constitution guarantees you > > that right. > > Robert B. Winn > > I may be reading too much between the lines here, but why did the police > "decide to harass you?" > I complained about some of their pet drug dealers. Robert B. Winn
From: DanielSan on 20 Jul 2008 17:53 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a >>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again. >>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... >>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888? >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was >>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer. >>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in >>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power. >>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that. >>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were >>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the >>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it >>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not >>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto? >>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He >>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that >>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you >>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text - >>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well >>> documented. >> And what's that got to do with atheism? >> > Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been > a Christian by atheists of today. Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to atheism? -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
From: Ben Dolan on 20 Jul 2008 17:54
DanielSan <danielsan(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > rbwinn wrote: > > The Flying Spaghetti Monster definitely does exist in the minds of > > atheists, just as Harry Potter does. It is part of their religion, > > just as idols and graven images were part of the religions of > > heathens. > > No, you aren't getting it, are you? The FSM and Harry Potter do NOT > exist in our minds. Actually, the child is (partially) right for a change. The only place the FSM and Harry Potter do exist is in people's minds--just like God... |