From: Free Lunch on
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:17:12 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:

>On Jul 20, 9:50�am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:

....

>> > No, Stalin hated Christians as much as you do.
>>
>> BZZT! �I don't hate Christians.
>>
>Well, I think you do.

Since you have demonstrated that you are no Christian, what do you care?
From: Stan-O on
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:52:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com>
wrote:


>> >I have never let one represent me in court.
>>
>> ...and neither have I, but I know a couple of them. You have a lot of
>> misconceptions about lawyers if you think all of them want power.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>
>The reason why people become lawyers is so that they can have power.
>European courts did not recognize the right of defendants to defend
>themselves, which has now also been imposed on the United States.
>Lawyers are persons who are held by these police state courts of today
>to have rights to in court, which defendants are not considered to
>have. Defendants no longer have freedom of speech, the right to trial
>by jury, etc., in court, but lawyers can still obtain these things for
>defendants.

OOOO! Look out, Robert! They're coming to get you!
From: Stan-O on
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:09:43 +0100, "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com>
wrote:


>>> >I do not have anything going at the present time. ?Lawyers were the
>>> >people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to
>>> >trial by jury.
>>>
>>> That's odd, because my boss was just on a jury trial last month. I
>>> guess that makes you a liar again, doesn't it?- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>> No, it does not. The right to trial by jury no longer exists. People
>> who commit crimes serious enough to be profitable to lawyers are given
>> the privilege of trial by jury. That means if you commit a murder,
>> you can have a lawyer and a trial by jury. If you are arrested on
>> misdemeanor charges by police who have decided to harrass you, you
>> cannot get a trial by jury even though the Constitution guarantees you
>> that right.
>> Robert B. Winn
>
>I may be reading too much between the lines here, but why did the police
>"decide to harass you?"

We had this discussion a couple of years ago. Robert tried to play
lawyer during a routine traffic stop, and he couldn't keep his big
mouth shut.
From: Stan-O on
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:56:03 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com>
wrote:


>> >> >> Why would an "atheistic court system" reward someone who claimed to believe
>> >> >> in gods, skippy?
>>
>> >> > Lawyers reward anyone who adds to their power and financial security.
>>
>> >> You've got a whole "reward" thing going on at the moment, why is that?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >I do not have anything going at the present time. ?Lawyers were the
>> >people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to
>> >trial by jury.
>>
>> That's odd, because my boss was just on a jury trial last month. I
>> guess that makes you a liar again, doesn't it?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>No, it does not. The right to trial by jury no longer exists.

<snip>

The rest of your psychobabble wasn't even worth reading, particularly
when you start with such an idiotic comment.

I guess that old saying is right - A person who acts as their own
lawyer has an idiot for a client..
From: Stan-O on
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:00:37 -0700, DanielSan
<danielsan(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:


>>>
>>
>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well
>> documented.
>
>And what's that got to do with atheism?

Absolutely nothing. Robert refuses to do any research on the subject
for fear that he might be proved wrong...