From: Free Lunch on 20 Jul 2008 13:52 On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:17:12 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jul 20, 9:50�am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: .... >> > No, Stalin hated Christians as much as you do. >> >> BZZT! �I don't hate Christians. >> >Well, I think you do. Since you have demonstrated that you are no Christian, what do you care?
From: Stan-O on 20 Jul 2008 14:14 On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:52:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >I have never let one represent me in court. >> >> ...and neither have I, but I know a couple of them. You have a lot of >> misconceptions about lawyers if you think all of them want power.- Hide quoted text - >> > >The reason why people become lawyers is so that they can have power. >European courts did not recognize the right of defendants to defend >themselves, which has now also been imposed on the United States. >Lawyers are persons who are held by these police state courts of today >to have rights to in court, which defendants are not considered to >have. Defendants no longer have freedom of speech, the right to trial >by jury, etc., in court, but lawyers can still obtain these things for >defendants. OOOO! Look out, Robert! They're coming to get you!
From: Stan-O on 20 Jul 2008 14:19 On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:09:43 +0100, "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>> >I do not have anything going at the present time. ?Lawyers were the >>> >people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to >>> >trial by jury. >>> >>> That's odd, because my boss was just on a jury trial last month. I >>> guess that makes you a liar again, doesn't it?- Hide quoted text - >>> >> No, it does not. The right to trial by jury no longer exists. People >> who commit crimes serious enough to be profitable to lawyers are given >> the privilege of trial by jury. That means if you commit a murder, >> you can have a lawyer and a trial by jury. If you are arrested on >> misdemeanor charges by police who have decided to harrass you, you >> cannot get a trial by jury even though the Constitution guarantees you >> that right. >> Robert B. Winn > >I may be reading too much between the lines here, but why did the police >"decide to harass you?" We had this discussion a couple of years ago. Robert tried to play lawyer during a routine traffic stop, and he couldn't keep his big mouth shut.
From: Stan-O on 20 Jul 2008 14:26 On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:56:03 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> Why would an "atheistic court system" reward someone who claimed to believe >> >> >> in gods, skippy? >> >> >> > Lawyers reward anyone who adds to their power and financial security. >> >> >> You've got a whole "reward" thing going on at the moment, why is that?- Hide quoted text - >> >> >I do not have anything going at the present time. ?Lawyers were the >> >people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to >> >trial by jury. >> >> That's odd, because my boss was just on a jury trial last month. I >> guess that makes you a liar again, doesn't it?- Hide quoted text - >> >No, it does not. The right to trial by jury no longer exists. <snip> The rest of your psychobabble wasn't even worth reading, particularly when you start with such an idiotic comment. I guess that old saying is right - A person who acts as their own lawyer has an idiot for a client..
From: Stan-O on 20 Jul 2008 14:27
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:00:37 -0700, DanielSan <danielsan(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>> >> >> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well >> documented. > >And what's that got to do with atheism? Absolutely nothing. Robert refuses to do any research on the subject for fear that he might be proved wrong... |