Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 31 Jul 2008 23:46 On Jul 31, 2:49�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:ae8f4467-84cc-4236-931c-962a8093f584(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > OnJul31, 3:14 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:6ae29228-aa4f-4c68-a5af-211b12dc6a24(a)i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com.... > > >> > OnJul30, 6:28 pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:27:57 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> >> Steve O > >> >> >> >> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) > >> >> >> >> B.A.A.W.A. > >> >> >> >> Convicted by Earthquack > >> >> >> >> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> >> >Well, with regard to that, psychiatrists only treat patients who > >> >> >> >are > >> >> >> >financially profitable to them. ?That makes psychiatrists among > >> >> >> >the > >> >> >> >most useless people on earth, along with lawyers. > > >> >> >> Slyly, Robert tries to change the subject...- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> Nothing in the discussion included lawyers until you decided to start > >> >> spewing your paranoid delusions.- Hide quoted text - > > >> > All discussions of today include lawyers. Who do you think the people > >> > are who allow discussions to take place? > >> > Robert B. Winn > > >> Now you're really starting to lose it. > > >> -- > >> Steve O > > > Was that the meltdown you were talking about? > > Robert B. Winn > > Unless you can demonstrate to me exactly how lawyers control ALL > discussions, I'm going to have to assume your meltdown has already started. > -- > Steve O Lawyers have people convinced that the only conversations that matter are the ones controlled by lawyers. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 31 Jul 2008 23:52 On Jul 31, 5:11�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Thu, 31Jul2008 13:23:32 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > >> >All discussions of today include lawyers. ?Who do you think the people > >> >are who allow discussions to take place? > > >> You have really gone off the deep end. Youneedto get some > >> professional help before it's too late...- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >You mean like hire a lawyer or psychiatrist? > > Anyone who will keep you from taking firearms and shooting at > imaginary Satans, since you've already referred to a couple of people > by that name... I was not referring to people. I was referring to the evil spirit that had possessed people. Robert B. Winn
From: DanielSan on 31 Jul 2008 23:55 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 31, 2:47�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751(a)s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>> <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism >>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in >>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...(a)z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism >>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in >>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...(a)m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being >>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an >>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many >>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of >>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not. >>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. >>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in >>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the >>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a >>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true. >>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide >>>>>>>>>>>> quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard >>>>>>>>>>> of, they >>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. >>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'. >>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod >>>>>>>>>> would be >>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted >>>>>>>>>> text - >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve. >>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no >>>>>>>> one_ >>>>>>>> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around >>>>>>> lying about it. >>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the >>>>>> Twelve.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not >>>>> been ordained. >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> I am an apostle. >>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>> So who ordained you an apostle? >>> Robert B. Winn >> You did. >> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle, >> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle. >> It's right up there, in the text. >> >> -- >> Steve O > Paul was ordained an apostle. Al was not. I ordain Al as an apostle. -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
From: rbwinn on 1 Aug 2008 00:12 On Jul 31, 6:04�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > OnJul31, 5:36 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> OnJul30, 9:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> OnJul30, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:40 pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 10:42:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator > >>>>>>>>>>>>> was being an atheist. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Why? > >>>>>>>>>>> Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people. > >>>>>>>>>>> Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators. > >>>>>>>>>> ...and to think that Marx himself was Jewish...- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> Marx said that he was an atheist. How is it that now that Communism > >>>>>>>>> has failed, all of these Communist icons are suddenly religious men? > >>>>>>>> Because you read filtered propaganda instead of doing any research > >>>>>>>> into their backgrounds. > >>>>>>> Well, I knew that Karl Marx was born to a Jewish family and became an > >>>>>>> atheist. I knew that Josef Stalin was born into a Russian Orthodox > >>>>>>> family and became an atheist. Those are just facts. So how do > >>>>>>> atheists of today hope to change the facts by claiming that these two > >>>>>>> individuals were religious men? > >>>>>> So, you believe Marx and Stalin when they claimed to be atheists? > >>>>> I absolutely do. They sound just like atheists of today. > >>>> You mean, you don't think they were lying for political gain? > >>> Yes, they were lying for political gain > >> Therefore, it's possible they weren't atheists. > > Well, no, it is not possible. �There were no Communist dictators who > > were not atheists. > > ...that you will admit to existing, you mean. > > -- > ****************************************************** > * � � � � �DanielSan -- alt.atheism # Well, tell me one and we will see if I admit it. Robert B. Winn
From: DanielSan on 1 Aug 2008 00:20
rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 31, 6:04�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> OnJul31, 5:36 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> OnJul30, 9:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:40 pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 10:42:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was being an atheist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators. >>>>>>>>>>>> ...and to think that Marx himself was Jewish...- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> Marx said that he was an atheist. How is it that now that Communism >>>>>>>>>>> has failed, all of these Communist icons are suddenly religious men? >>>>>>>>>> Because you read filtered propaganda instead of doing any research >>>>>>>>>> into their backgrounds. >>>>>>>>> Well, I knew that Karl Marx was born to a Jewish family and became an >>>>>>>>> atheist. I knew that Josef Stalin was born into a Russian Orthodox >>>>>>>>> family and became an atheist. Those are just facts. So how do >>>>>>>>> atheists of today hope to change the facts by claiming that these two >>>>>>>>> individuals were religious men? >>>>>>>> So, you believe Marx and Stalin when they claimed to be atheists? >>>>>>> I absolutely do. They sound just like atheists of today. >>>>>> You mean, you don't think they were lying for political gain? >>>>> Yes, they were lying for political gain >>>> Therefore, it's possible they weren't atheists. >>> Well, no, it is not possible. �There were no Communist dictators who >>> were not atheists. >> ...that you will admit to existing, you mean. > > Well, tell me one and we will see if I admit it. Already done with Muntzer. -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ****************************************************** |