Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 31 Jul 2008 01:14 On Jul 30, 6:31�pm, Matthew Johnson <matthew_mem...(a)newsguy.org> wrote: > In article <463991c3-b6e9-46cd-a32f-db96e9196...(a)r66g2000hsg.googlegroups..com>, > rbwinn says... > > > > > > > > >On Jul 30, 3:59=EF=BF=BDpm, Matthew Johnson <matthew_mem...(a)newsguy.org> > >wrote: > >> In article <6fc8kdFarl1...(a)mid.individual.net>, Steve O says... > > >> [snip] > > >> >Of course, you knew that, but you were just being silly, weren't you? > > >> As long as you continue to post this in sci.physics, you are both being p= > >retty > >> silly. > > >They have told me that they will under no circumstances take > >sci.physics and sci.physics.relativity out of the header when they > >post topics about their opposition to religion. > >Robert B. Winn > > Then I guess they will win their contest of working their way into more > killfiles than anyone else...- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - It is certainly sad that it has come to this, scientists killfiling atheists. Robert B. Winn
From: DanielSan on 31 Jul 2008 01:15 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 30, 6:14�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:9dcddedb-bce6-457f-b0c5-d9a6d2bb6bd7(a)m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 22, 10:04?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>> news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b(a)k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>> On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>> God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. >>>>>>> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>> Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? >>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some >>>>> evidence >>>>> of >>>>> God as well. >>>>> -- >>>>> Steve O >>>> God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. ?If that was not enough for >>>> you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything. >>>> Robert B. Winn >>> Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God? >>> Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all, >>> it's >>> just an old, old story. >>> -- >>> Steve O >> Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. �Three >> different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of >> Hezekiah's tunnel. >> ================================ >> Several of the Harry Potter books mention Kings Cross station. >> Does that make the Harry Potter stories true? >> >> Smiler, > > Why don't you spend some more time studying it, Smiler, and decide for > yourself? I know that atheists are a little lacking in self- > confidence, but I think you could decide this question for yourself. I've studied Hezekiah's Tunnel since you brought it up. I still fail to see what its existence has to do with the truthfulness of the Bible. -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
From: DanielSan on 31 Jul 2008 01:17 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 30, 6:14�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 30, 5:38 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 30, 3:16 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 22, 10:04 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b(a)k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>> God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. >>>>>>>>>>>> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some evidence >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> God as well. >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>>>> God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. If that was not enough for >>>>>>>>> you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything. >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>> Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God? >>>>>>>> Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all, it's >>>>>>>> just an old, old story. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>> Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. >>>>>> No. Hezekiah's tunnel is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. >>>>>>> Three >>>>>>> different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of >>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel. >>>>>> So? >>>>> So the Muslims had control of the Pool of Siloam for centuries and had >>>>> no idea where the water came from. Hezekiah's tunnel was not >>>>> discovered in modern times until British military personnel who had >>>>> read the Bible looked for the tunnel and found it exactly where the >>>>> Bible said it was. >>>> Again, so? >>> If Muslims or athiests had studied the Bible, they could have been the >>> ones to discover the tunnel instead of the British army. >> What does this have to do with the veracity of the Bible? >> >> -- > Well, as I said, the British soldiers who discovered Hezekiah's tunnel > looked for the tunnel where the Bible said it was. So? -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
From: rbwinn on 31 Jul 2008 01:18 On Jul 30, 6:33�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:58:30 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >> >Paul was one of the twelve. ?He was ordained when James the son of > >> >Zebedee was killed by Herod. ?The apostles kept the quorum at twelve > >> >until Peter was crucified in Rome, then one by one all of the apostles > >> >were killed. ?You are claiming that because some translators misused > >> >the term apostle that the apostles would have been controlled by that > >> >future mis-translation. ?It does not work that way, just as the > >> >disbelief of atheists today did not control the existence of Jesus > >> >Christ. > >> >Robert B. Winn > > >> Feel free to back up your ahistorical claim with real evidence or even > >> the story line from the New Testament.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Well, I think we should wait until the resurrection and ask Paul about > >it. > > <THWACK> > Still haven't learned have you?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Ha ha ha, didn't even hurt. Robert B. Winn
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on 31 Jul 2008 01:24
On Jul 31, 11:02 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 30, 5:25 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > > > > > "Stan-O" <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote in message > > >news:1kq1949f2u711u1qt1tjv30s5snpkkeakq(a)4ax.com... > > > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:57:16 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > wrote: > > > >>> It's more than likely that Robbie exists on the fringes of the mental > > >>> health > > >>> service, not quite crazy enough to be sectioned and sane enough to live > > >>> ?in > > >>> society. > > >>> There are plenty of people like him. > > >>> I quite often have to deal with the mentally ill, and it constantly > > >>> surprises me how ill they have to be before the hospitals will take them > > >>> in. > > > >>> -- > > >>> Steve O > > >>> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) > > >>> B.A.A.W.A. > > >>> Convicted by Earthquack > > >>> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence- Hide quoted text - > > > >>> - Show quoted text - > > > >>Well, with regard to that, psychiatrists only treat patients who are > > >>financially profitable to them. That makes psychiatrists among the > > >>most useless people on earth, along with lawyers. > > > > Slyly, Robert tries to change the subject... > > > A common ploy by the mentally ill. > > What Skippy doesn't know is that "Sectioned" refers to Section 2 of the UK > > Mental Health Act and that, in the UK, psychiatrists get paid the same > > amount for each and every patient they see under the NHS. > > > Smiler, > > Well, that is socialized medicine. Here in the United States, > psychiatrists get paid more than $100.00 per hour by rich people who > pay them to do their thinking. > Robert B. Winn There's a hell of a lot more wrong with the US health services than just psychiatry. And that feature you seem to dislike about them, is consistent across the board. Al |