Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on 31 Jul 2008 01:32 On Jul 31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > > <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...(a)z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > > > >On Jul 30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > > >> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...(a)m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > > > >> >On Jul 22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > > >> >> >On Jul 21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > > >> >> >> >On Jul 21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > > >> >> >> >> >On Jul 20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> > > >> >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >rbwinn wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> ... > > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it. > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. > > > >> >> >> >> >> >So, Jesus didn't say it. > > > >> >> >> >> >> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. > > > >> >> >> >> >Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why don't you wait > > >> >> >> >> >until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was one of the > > >> >> >> >> >twelve? > > > >> >> >> >> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you insist on making > > >> >> >> >> a fool of yourself. > > > >> >> >> >> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. > > > >> >> >> >> If there were a God, He would strike you down for being such a bad > > >> >> >> >> example.- Hide quoted text - > > > >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > >> >> >> >The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul says he is an > > >> >> >> >apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many atheists of > > >> >> >> >today say he was not. > > > >> >> >> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. Nowhere in > > >> >> >> the entire Bible does it say that Paul was one of the Twelve. That was a > > >> >> >> claim you made up that was not true. > > > >> >> >> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide quoted text - > > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > >> >> >Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they > > >> >> >rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. > > > >> >> So, as you can see, apostle does not mean 'one of the Twelve'. > > > >> >> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Your god would be > > >> >> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted text - > > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > >> >Well, yes it does mean ?one of the Twelve. > > > >> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste some > > >> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no one_ > > >> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text - > > > >Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around > > >lying about it. > > > You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the > > Twelve.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not > been ordained. > Robert B. Winn I am an apostle. Al
From: Steve O on 31 Jul 2008 06:14 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:6ae29228-aa4f-4c68-a5af-211b12dc6a24(a)i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 30, 6:28�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:27:57 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Steve O >> >> >> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) >> >> >> B.A.A.W.A. >> >> >> Convicted by Earthquack >> >> >> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >Well, with regard to that, psychiatrists only treat patients who are >> >> >financially profitable to them. ?That makes psychiatrists among the >> >> >most useless people on earth, along with lawyers. >> >> >> Slyly, Robert tries to change the subject...- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> Nothing in the discussion included lawyers until you decided to start >> spewing your paranoid delusions.- Hide quoted text - >> > All discussions of today include lawyers. Who do you think the people > are who allow discussions to take place? > Robert B. Winn Now you're really starting to lose it. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence >
From: Stan-O on 31 Jul 2008 06:55 On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:13:31 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> Steve O >> >> >> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) >> >> >> B.A.A.W.A. >> >> >> Convicted by Earthquack >> >> >> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >Well, with regard to that, psychiatrists only treat patients who are >> >> >financially profitable to them. ?That makes psychiatrists among the >> >> >most useless people on earth, along with lawyers. >> >> >> Slyly, Robert tries to change the subject...- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> Nothing in the discussion included lawyers until you decided to start >> spewing your paranoid delusions.- Hide quoted text - >> >All discussions of today include lawyers. Who do you think the people >are who allow discussions to take place? You have really gone off the deep end. You need to get some professional help before it's too late...
From: rbwinn on 31 Jul 2008 07:52 On Jul 30, 7:18�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:43:51 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> All I am trying to tell you, Robbie, is that you just happen to be the > >> >> latest in a long line of Christians with mental health problems who have > >> >> come into this newsgroup, firmly entrenched in their delusions, only to > >> >> run > >> >> off screaming never to be heard from again. > >> >> It happens to most of them when they are eventually forced to examine > >> >> their > >> >> beliefs properly. > >> >> You cannot argue against hard reason. > >> >> Just understand that we've seen and heard all of this before, many times > >> >> over, and it is ALWAYS the theist who comes off worst. > >> >> You can actually see the gradual mental deterioration in their posts over > >> >> time. > >> >> I'm fairly sure that no one here wishes to encourage the mental breakdown > >> >> of > >> >> anyone in an already fragile mental state but please understand that you > >> >> have brought nothing new here, and no matter how wonderful your God may > >> >> seem > >> >> to you at the moment, we've seen and heard it all before. > > >> > So can you tell me the day and the hour when this event is supposed to > >> > happen? > >> > Robertt B. Winn > > >> No I can't. > >> Did you think I was psychic or something? > > >Well, no. �I thought that you were a false Christ. > > No, that would be Dore Williamson. I'm sure you remember her.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - No, sorry. Never heard of her. There was a Williamson family that used to be professional thieves, traveled all over the United States ripping people off. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 31 Jul 2008 08:03
On Jul 30, 9:49�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 30, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 30, 3:40 pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:42:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator > >>>>>>>>> was being an atheist. > >>>>>>>> Why? > >>>>>>> Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people.. > >>>>>>> Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators. > >>>>>> ...and to think that Marx himself was Jewish...- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>> Marx said that he was an atheist. How is it that now that Communism > >>>>> has failed, all of these Communist icons are suddenly religious men? > >>>> Because you read filtered propaganda instead of doing any research > >>>> into their backgrounds. > >>> Well, I knew that Karl Marx was born to a Jewish family and became an > >>> atheist. I knew that Josef Stalin was born into a Russian Orthodox > >>> family and became an atheist. Those are just facts. So how do > >>> atheists of today hope to change the facts by claiming that these two > >>> individuals were religious men? > >> So, you believe Marx and Stalin when they claimed to be atheists? > > > I absolutely do. �They sound just like atheists of today. > > You mean, you don't think they were lying for political gain? > > -- > ****************************************************** > * � � � � �DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 � � � � � �* > Yes, they were lying for political gain, just as atheists of today do. Robert B. Winn |