Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 1 Aug 2008 17:28 On Aug 1, 2:41�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:52:33 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >On Jul 31, 5:11?pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, 31Jul2008 13:23:32 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> wrote: > > >> >> >All discussions of today include lawyers. ?Who do you think the people > >> >> >are who allow discussions to take place? > > >> >> You have really gone off the deep end. Youneedto get some > >> >> professional help before it's too late...- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >You mean like hire a lawyer or psychiatrist? > > >> Anyone who will keep you from taking firearms and shooting at > >> imaginary Satans, since you've already referred to a couple of people > >> by that name... > > >I was not referring to people. �I was referring to the evil spirit > >that had possessed people. > > I feel sorry for any children that you have. You'd probably take them > to an exorcist...- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - There is no reason for me to take anyone to an exorcist. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 1 Aug 2008 17:38 On Aug 1, 2:46�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:04:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >> Your goal posts move faster than the eye can follow, don't they? > >> No-one made the claim that "There is Nothing in the bible that can be > >> proven." > >> Several people pointed out that just because there is a tunnel where > >> the bible says there is a tunnel,doesnot mean that anything else it > >> said (even about the tunnel) is true. ?Because we would expect the > >> authors, (fiction authors or historians) to know about the tunnel back > >> then. ?They may not have known where it came from though, so we can't > >> trust their account of that until it has been established by other > >> methods. > > >> Al- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Well, I can trust their account. �They were Jews, not atheists. > > Do you have to start every post with "Well"? It's quite annoying...- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, I don't have to, but I do. If it annoys atheists, there must be a reason. I learned that pattern of speech from Ronald Reagan. Just look how successful Ronald Reagan was. Robert B. Winn R
From: rbwinn on 1 Aug 2008 17:45 On Aug 1, 2:49�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:40:30 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > >> >Lev 18:22 ?Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind; ?It is > >> >an abomination. > > >> You can still do it standing up, just don't lie down...- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Don't explain your problem to me. �I cannot help you with it. > > Yet, you still replied. You are really an obsessed individual... So you are saying that anyone who answers one of your irrelevant inquiries is obsessed. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 1 Aug 2008 17:55 On Aug 1, 4:39�am, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 31, 1:11�pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > ============================ > > > All Christs are false, even the first one. > > > Well, I think that the best person to tell your idea would be Jesus > > Christ. �Why don't you take some time to tell him what you think when > > he returns to judge the earth? > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Do you know that your mental illness is getting worse? > You have no way to explain when asked, then you avoid like a scared > dog losing its fight and ran with tail in between �the legs.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - How did you come to this conclusion? Were you aware that trying to practice psychiatry without a license is a felony? Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 1 Aug 2008 17:59
On Aug 1, 4:39�am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:11:50 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > in alt.atheism: > > > > > > > > >On Jul 31, 6:21?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > ... > >> > Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted > >> > that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is > >> > true. ?First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction > >> > of something that can be observed. > > >> And that's irrelevant. > > >> > But your premise is wrong. ?Just because you can find a fiction book > >> > that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all > >> > books that describe something that can be seen are fiction. > > >> Doesn't prove they're nonfiction, either. ?You're starting to get it. > >> Just because a book talks about the construction of something is > >> irrelevant to the veracity of the book. > > >No, it is not irrelevant. > > Sure it is. > > >> > ?The > >> > furthest you can go ?would be to say that the book that describes > >> > something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you > >> > cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. ?So you would have > >> > to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not > >> > Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. ?I hope > >> > this will help you in your studies. > > >> When you get on to proving that God thing as non-fiction, do let me know. > > >God already proved it. �If you reject the atonement of Christ for your > >sins, it is your problem, not mine. > > God proved nothing. There is no evidence that the Bible has anything to > do with God. There is no evidence that God exists. There is no evidence > that the doctrine of atonement is true. There is no evidence for a soul, > an afterlife, heaven or hell. These doctrines are derived from a book > that contains many, many serious errors of fact, yet you want us to > believe doctrines that are completely unsupported by any evidence. When > we are skeptical about this nonsense, you try to threaten us with a > completely unbelievable and totally unsubstantiated judgement. > > It's no wonder that no one here takes you seriously. You just aren't > being serious here. You try to sell a completely dishonest, > unsupportable religion to us and get mad at us when we aren't persuaded.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, rejecting the atonement of Christ seems very foolish to me, but you are going to have to make your own decision about it. So find out for yourself whether the Bible is true. Robert B. Winn |