Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 31 Jul 2008 00:57 On Jul 30, 6:07�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...(a)z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Jul 30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > >> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...(a)m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > > >> >On Jul 22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >On Jul 21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >> >On Jul 21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >> >> >On Jul 20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> > >> >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >> >> >> >rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >> ... > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. > > >> >> >> >> >> >So, Jesus didn't say it. > > >> >> >> >> >> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. > > >> >> >> >> >Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why don't you wait > >> >> >> >> >until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was one of the > >> >> >> >> >twelve? > > >> >> >> >> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you insist on making > >> >> >> >> a fool of yourself. > > >> >> >> >> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. > > >> >> >> >> If there were a God, He would strike you down for being such a bad > >> >> >> >> example.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> >> >The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul says he is an > >> >> >> >apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many atheists of > >> >> >> >today say he was not. > > >> >> >> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. Nowhere in > >> >> >> the entire Bible does it say that Paul was one of the Twelve. That was a > >> >> >> claim you made up that was not true. > > >> >> >> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> >Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they > >> >> >rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. > > >> >> So, as you can see, apostle does not mean 'one of the Twelve'. > > >> >> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Your god would be > >> >> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >Well, yes it does mean ?one of the Twelve. > > >> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste some > >> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no one_ > >> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text - > > >Well, Paul thought he was. �I don't think he would have gone around > >lying about it. > > You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the > Twelve.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not been ordained. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 31 Jul 2008 01:02 On Jul 30, 6:11�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:be74563b-03d2-4707-ae51-5a2279e92ef5(a)25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 22, 4:58?am, The Chief Instigator <patr...(a)io.com> wrote: > > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> writes: > > > On Jul 21, 10:08?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > > >>news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com.... > > > >> >> >God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. > > > >> >> You have no evidence at all about God. > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > >> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some > > >> evidence > > >> of God as well. > > > > God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. ?If that was not enough for > > > you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything. > > > Sacre m?rde...this supposed god sent Steve? ?Funny, how your holy book has > > been in error for only a couple of thousand years... > > Well, the Bible says that in the last days there will be many false > Christs. �Now you have Steve being one of them. > ================================== > And Harry Potter books say that Magic is real. > Why should I belive either of them? > > Smiler, Well, you need to learn to decide things like that for yourself, Smiler. Why do atheists have so much trouble making that kind of decision? Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 31 Jul 2008 01:05 On Jul 30, 6:14�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:9dcddedb-bce6-457f-b0c5-d9a6d2bb6bd7(a)m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 22, 10:04?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b(a)k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com.... > > > > On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > > >>news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com.... > > > >> >> >God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. > > > >> >> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text - > > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > >> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some > > >> evidence > > >> of > > >> God as well. > > > >> -- > > >> Steve O > > > > God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. ?If that was not enough for > > > you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything. > > > Robert B. Winn > > > Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God? > > Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all, > > it's > > just an old, old story. > > > -- > > Steve O > > Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. �Three > different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of > Hezekiah's tunnel. > ================================ > Several of the Harry Potter books mention Kings Cross station. > Does that make the Harry Potter stories true? > > Smiler, Why don't you spend some more time studying it, Smiler, and decide for yourself? I know that atheists are a little lacking in self- confidence, but I think you could decide this question for yourself. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 31 Jul 2008 01:08 On Jul 30, 6:14�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 30, 5:38 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 30, 3:16 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 22, 10:04 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b(a)k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>> On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups..com... > >>>>>>>>>>> God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. > >>>>>>>>>> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some evidence > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> God as well. > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>> God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. If that was not enough for > >>>>>>> you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything. > >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>> Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God? > >>>>>> Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all, it's > >>>>>> just an old, old story. > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Steve O > >>>>> Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. > >>>> No. Hezekiah's tunnel is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. > >>>>> Three > >>>>> different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of > >>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel. > >>>> So? > >>> So the Muslims had control of the Pool of Siloam for centuries and had > >>> no idea where the water came from. Hezekiah's tunnel was not > >>> discovered in modern times until British military personnel who had > >>> read the Bible looked for the tunnel and found it exactly where the > >>> Bible said it was. > >> Again, so? > > > If Muslims or athiests had studied the Bible, they could have been the > > ones to discover the tunnel instead of the British army. > > What does this have to do with the veracity of the Bible? > > -- Well, as I said, the British soldiers who discovered Hezekiah's tunnel looked for the tunnel where the Bible said it was. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 31 Jul 2008 01:13
On Jul 30, 6:28�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:27:57 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> -- > >> >> Steve O > >> >> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) > >> >> B.A.A.W.A. > >> >> Convicted by Earthquack > >> >> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >Well, with regard to that, psychiatrists only treat patients who are > >> >financially profitable to them. ?That makes psychiatrists among the > >> >most useless people on earth, along with lawyers. > > >> Slyly, Robert tries to change the subject...- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > Nothing in the discussion included lawyers until you decided to start > spewing your paranoid delusions.- Hide quoted text - > All discussions of today include lawyers. Who do you think the people are who allow discussions to take place? Robert B. Winn |