Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 2 Aug 2008 03:14 On Aug 1, 3:35�pm, Matthew Johnson <matthew_mem...(a)newsguy.org> wrote: > In article <e41a1737-acad-4cdc-ae31-4f6523f32...(a)p25g2000hsf.googlegroups..com>, > rbwinn says... > > >So what exactly is it > >that you are trying to do? > >Robert B. Winn > > I could ask you the same question, Robert. All you are doing is rattling cages. > You aren't actually accomplishing anything else. > > Worse yet, you are still crossposting. You posted this to all of the following > groups, whether you know it or not: > sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism. > > Crossposting is always irritating, so it is almost never the right thing to do. > It certainly isn't right here. Pick one group and stick with it. Pick one where > it is on topic. > > Finally, make sure you know how to use your news client. Do you know how to coax > it to display all the groups it is about to post to? Do you know how to turn OFF > crossposting? Well, scientists were all done talking to me about the theory of relativity two years ago when I finally figured out how the Galilean transformation equations describe relativity of time If any scientists decide they want to talk to me, I would certainly rather talk to them than these atheists. Robert B. Winn
From: hhyapster on 2 Aug 2008 05:08 On Aug 2, 5:55 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Aug 1, 4:39 am, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 31, 1:11 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > ============================ > > > > All Christs are false, even the first one. > > > > Well, I think that the best person to tell your idea would be Jesus > > > Christ. Why don't you take some time to tell him what you think when > > > he returns to judge the earth? > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Do you know that your mental illness is getting worse? > > You have no way to explain when asked, then you avoid like a scared > > dog losing its fight and ran with tail in between the legs.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > How did you come to this conclusion? Were you aware that trying to > practice psychiatry without a license is a felony? > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I came to this conclusion because of the way you address questions. All of us here know that you have a problem with your mind and posting unreasonable or incomprehensible staement. For example, all preachers and pastors told you that Jesus and his other gods will ressurect but all the x'tians have been waiting for the past 2000 years without even the faintest ray of hope, and would not happen until Year 8,080,000,000. But you have been lying that bible record said that they will come, to save human from sins. Perhaps that's the time when the sun run out fuel, and human has found a planet called Foolu to stay.
From: hhyapster on 2 Aug 2008 05:15 On Aug 2, 5:59 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Aug 1, 4:39 am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:11:50 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > > in alt.atheism: > > > >On Jul 31, 6:21?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > ... > > >> > Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted > > >> > that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is > > >> > true. ?First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction > > >> > of something that can be observed. > > > >> And that's irrelevant. > > > >> > But your premise is wrong. ?Just because you can find a fiction book > > >> > that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all > > >> > books that describe something that can be seen are fiction. > > > >> Doesn't prove they're nonfiction, either. ?You're starting to get it.. > > >> Just because a book talks about the construction of something is > > >> irrelevant to the veracity of the book. > > > >No, it is not irrelevant. > > > Sure it is. > > > >> > ?The > > >> > furthest you can go ?would be to say that the book that describes > > >> > something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you > > >> > cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. ?So you would have > > >> > to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not > > >> > Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. ?I hope > > >> > this will help you in your studies. > > > >> When you get on to proving that God thing as non-fiction, do let me know. > > > >God already proved it. If you reject the atonement of Christ for your > > >sins, it is your problem, not mine. > > > God proved nothing. There is no evidence that the Bible has anything to > > do with God. There is no evidence that God exists. There is no evidence > > that the doctrine of atonement is true. There is no evidence for a soul, > > an afterlife, heaven or hell. These doctrines are derived from a book > > that contains many, many serious errors of fact, yet you want us to > > believe doctrines that are completely unsupported by any evidence. When > > we are skeptical about this nonsense, you try to threaten us with a > > completely unbelievable and totally unsubstantiated judgement. > > > It's no wonder that no one here takes you seriously. You just aren't > > being serious here. You try to sell a completely dishonest, > > unsupportable religion to us and get mad at us when we aren't persuaded..- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Well, rejecting the atonement of Christ seems very foolish to me, but > you are going to have to make your own decision about it. So find out > for yourself whether the Bible is true. > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - We know Jesus was perhaps a criminal in the past and was nailed to be killed. Whether this happen as a fact or not is immaterial since there is no bearing to human then, and don't even matter to us in any way now. We do not need his dying for sins then and what is there to benefit from him now? The bible is full of accounts that contradicted itself and therefore false.....and you do not wish to acknowledge?????
From: hhyapster on 2 Aug 2008 05:25 On Aug 2, 7:39 am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:59:18 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >On Aug 1, 4:39?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:11:50 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > >> in alt.atheism: > > >> >On Jul 31, 6:21?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> ... > >> >> > Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted > >> >> > that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is > >> >> > true. ?First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction > >> >> > of something that can be observed. > > >> >> And that's irrelevant. > > >> >> > But your premise is wrong. ?Just because you can find a fiction book > >> >> > that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all > >> >> > books that describe something that can be seen are fiction. > > >> >> Doesn't prove they're nonfiction, either. ?You're starting to get it. > >> >> Just because a book talks about the construction of something is > >> >> irrelevant to the veracity of the book. > > >> >No, it is not irrelevant. > > >> Sure it is. > > >> >> > ?The > >> >> > furthest you can go ?would be to say that the book that describes > >> >> > something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you > >> >> > cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. ?So you would have > >> >> > to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not > >> >> > Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. ?I hope > >> >> > this will help you in your studies. > > >> >> When you get on to proving that God thing as non-fiction, do let me know. > > >> >God already proved it. ?If you reject the atonement of Christ for your > >> >sins, it is your problem, not mine. > > >> God proved nothing. There is no evidence that the Bible has anything to > >> do with God. There is no evidence that God exists. There is no evidence > >> that the doctrine of atonement is true. There is no evidence for a soul, > >> an afterlife, heaven or hell. These doctrines are derived from a book > >> that contains many, many serious errors of fact, yet you want us to > >> believe doctrines that are completely unsupported by any evidence. When > >> we are skeptical about this nonsense, you try to threaten us with a > >> completely unbelievable and totally unsubstantiated judgement. > > >> It's no wonder that no one here takes you seriously. You just aren't > >> being serious here. You try to sell a completely dishonest, > >> unsupportable religion to us and get mad at us when we aren't persuaded.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Well, rejecting the atonement of Christ seems very foolish to me, but > >you are going to have to make your own decision about it. So find out > >for yourself whether the Bible is true. > > I don't reject atonement. I reject fantasy stories that are completely > without foundation.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - What atonement.? The ancient people of the small number of abcient Jews invented stories to fool people....atonement?
From: Linda Fox on 2 Aug 2008 08:52
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:35:36 -0400, Stan-O <bndsna807(a)aol.com> wrote: >On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:33:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> >wrote: > > >>> In Canada, that is considered hate speech. It doesn't matter if you >>> live in another country. You posted this to an international news >>> group and you'll be hearing from our lawyers and psychiatrists...- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >>Yes, Canadians are such civilized people. I don't think I would want >>to ride a Greyhound bus there, though. > >That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, but coming from you, it >isn't surprising... There was a very grisly murder on a Greyhound in Canada during the past week. Guy stabbed the man next to him over 50 times, and when the driver and passengers had got off the bus and barricaded the murderer inside, he cut off the victim's head and waved it at them. Linda ff |