From: Rowland McDonnell on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> As I said, flash is great for some things (games etc) where there is
> nothing that does what it does.

True, but you could impmlement the same stuff using different tech. You
don't have to do it the same way.

> For adverts there are blockers for it, so it is not so bad in that.

Flashblock extension - Firefox. Blocks any Flash, advertising or not.
Plenty of non-advertising Flash is obnoxious - it mostly adds nothing
but annoyance, delays, security risks, unreliability, and CPU load.

>If
> adobe had put some effort into security it would be a bit better.

Processor efficiency and code reliability are serious problems too.

Crashing and thrashing, that's what I most lurve about Flash.

> > Back to my OP... the tools (apart from flash) used to create the
> > animation are... ?
>
> What other tools would there be apart from flash?
>
> Well, something to make some of the individual graphics, but you can use
> anything for that.

Hexedit's not such a cool tool for that job.

Rowland.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Geoff Berrow <blthecat(a)ckdog.co.uk> wrote:

> real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>
> >6) I've almost no opinion about HTML 5 on account of near total
> >ignorance.
> >
> >7) But that doesn't stop me wanting HTML 5 if it gets rid of Flash,
> >because Flash is so awful.
>
> Remarkable. How to you know HTML 5 will not be worse?

<puzzled> RTFW, kiddo.

> BTW, I see none of those things you see with Flash, and I'm using an
> inferior PC.

Yes, of course not.

Tell me, the man who sold you the kit in question, after you'd signed
away your soul in blood, did he vanish in a puff of sulphurous smoke?

'cos only a pact with the devil can stop Flash crashing and thrashing
and being a security risk.

Rowland.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Geoff Berrow <blthecat(a)ckdog.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > BTW, I see none of those things you see with Flash, and I'm using an
> > inferior PC.
>
> It's okay on the Mac as well; although I suspect that they got it more
> right on the PC, as so often happens (they have more incentive) it works
> pretty damn well on the Mac.

Peter, to claim that *YOUR* personal experience is somehow the
definitive one is really rather naive.

Especially since you know very well that you'd notice no problems with
security holes until some time after they've clobbered you.

Many people find that Flash on Macs causes problems with reliability for
one thing. And of course it increases CPU load.

You will see this yourself if you open up a dozen or so BBC iPlayer
programme pages and just leave 'em sat there, ready to play but play not
pressed.

Go on, do it. And the CPU load is now what?

So stop being so bloody dishonest, Peter.

Of course you see no problems if you refuse to look for them and deny
the ones that you know very well exist but don't show themselves until
*after* they have caused you catastrophic problems.

Rowland.



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From: Rowland McDonnell on
The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > this is me trying to help a child learn to think.
>
> Ah.

Yes, TOG's got the morbid obsession with me, and badly.

He's *SO* obsessed that he's always got to have the last word, even when
it's that sort of thing.

Sad, really.

And of course everyone hates him for doing so, if only because he sets
me off again by making posts like that.

Rowland.

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From: deano on
On 25 Mar, 22:48, use...(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote:
> deano <d.heighing...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> > On 25 Mar, 18:14, pe...(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:
> > > Adrian Tuddenham <adr...(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > 2) I don't like Flash because....
>
> > > > Do what I do and use a browser that doesn't have the capability to
> > > > display it.
>
> > > Wrong approach, I think.
>
> > > Use a browser that can display Flash, but it you don't want to see Flash
> > > movies then use a plugin that either blocks Flash entirely, or allows
> > > you to stop them playing until you okay them.
>
> > > Your approach is deliberately limiting, I think excessively so. Of
> > > course it's your choice, but the alternative I'm suggesting gives you
> > > more capabilities if you need them, at no cost.
> > > --
> > > Peter
>
> > Wow... all that hatred of Flash and nothing but text based websites...
> > it still exists?
> > Flash is a tool, if it works and is right for the message delivery and
> > the targeted audience... use it!
>
> As I said, flash is great for some things (games etc) where there is
> nothing that does what it does.
>
> For adverts there are blockers for it, so it is not so bad in that. If
> adobe had put some effort into security it would be a bit better.
>
> > Back to my OP... the tools (apart from flash) used to create the
> > animation are... ?
>
> What other tools would there be apart from flash?
>
> Well, something to make some of the individual graphics, but you can use
> anything for that.
>
> --
> Woody
>
> www.alienrat.com

Ok, what would have been used to get the 3D architecture and figures
into Flash?
3DS Max?, Sketchup? or other of the latest 3D apps around.
I suppose I'm asking what techniques were used to get everything into
Flash?