From: jmfbahciv on
In article <IfqdnQjJRMY1WsXYRVnysA(a)pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:ej9mau$8qk_004(a)s785.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>> In article <iMqdndygs8fA08rYnZ2dnUVZ8sOdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ej725c$8ss_002(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>>> In article <Tel5h.2388$6t.1435(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
>>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ej4gig$8ss_012(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>>>>> Why do you think Arabs asked
>>>>>> the western world for help? In all other cases, this would have
>>>>>> been unthinkable.
>>>>>
>>>>>No, that the house of Saud is a US puppet is widely acknowledged around
>>>>>the
>>>>>world. Not unthinkable at all. It just happened to be a slightly
>>>>>neater
>>>>>way of getting things done.
>>>>
>>>> You have a lot of delusions. I'd like to figure out how you got
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Oh no, another irony meter bites the dust.
>>>
>>>Are you asserting here that the Saudi royal family are not widely
>>>considered
>>>a government which is obedient to the US?
>>
>> I'm not asserting. It is politcally dangerous for a Muslim
>> to be associated with Western culture unless that piece of
>> culture has been approved by the Imams (I think that's the
>> name of the people who do approvals).
>
>Yet the Saudi government are widely considered (by Arabs and non-Arabs) to
>be closely associated with the US.

Why? Is this before or after the first Gulf War?

>
>Isn't that strange?

There is a difference between diplomatic associations and puppets.
If it were perceived that the Saudis were only puppets to the US,
they would no longer be allowed to rule by their people.

>
>Now going back to the earlier point, what do you mean when you said Lucas's
>post was deluded?

Which one? Most of them seem to be deluded.

/BAH

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <4559DEF1.515D054F(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>So, the insurance based model is broken is it not ?
>> >>
>> >> It is now since the HMOs have become the preferred payers.
>> >
>> >An NHS would cure that.
>>
>> No, it would not. What Hillary was planning was a worse case.
>
>She wasn't planning a proper NHS though AIUI.

Then will you try to get my point? Whatever the Dems do manage
to get through will be an awful, non-working mess. You keep
insisting that an NHS will work in the US. It will not because
yours (assuming it does function) will not be a template for
anything the US Congress will pass.


>
>
>> I suppose, us USAians could join your NHS and go to your doctors
>> for service.
>
>For $2291 per head p.a. why not ? The air fares would be expensive though.
>
>
>> Perhaps you would then learn some of the problems
>> of having to service too many people with finite resources.
>
>We know all about having to do that ! The NHS is expert at it.

I don't think you do know all about it. Wait until there's
a global epidemic and then you'll find out where all the
bugs are.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <eaWdnTKzXuAFvcfYRVnyig(a)pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:ejcln7$8qk_012(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>> In article <ytidnQLKcunpX8XYnZ2dnUVZ8q-dnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ej9mvv$8qk_008(a)s785.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>>> In article <45574ED9.32805BEE(a)hotmail.com>,
>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>>>> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> You are parroting politicians again. What is really happening
>>>>>> >> is that people, who do not have access to a GP, go to the
>>>>>> >> most expensive health care facility for treatment.
>>>>>> >> Now instead of concentrating on how they can't afford the most
>>>>>> >> expensive service, why not concentrate on why they cannot get
>>>>>> >> access to the usual general practioner's services. That is
>>>>>> >> the problem. And it has become exasperated by everything being
>>>>>> >> based on whether you have insurance or not.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >You present a strong case for the introduction of a nationalise
>>>>>> >healthcare
>>>>>> >system, where all have equal access to healthcare resources based on
>>>> medical
>>>>>> >need.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There will not be access. That's what I'm trying to get
>>>>>> you to understand. You can have oodles of insurance but,
>>>>>> if you can't get an appt., you might as well use their
>>>>>> forms for toilet paper.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, the insurance based model is broken is it not ?
>>>>
>>>> It is now since the HMOs have become the preferred payers.
>>>
>>>An NHS would cure that.
>>
>> No, it would not. What Hillary was planning was a worse case.
>
>Two distinct sentences yet you imply an A means B relationship.
>
>An NHS _would_ solve the problem you have with HMOs. Whatever Hillary was
>planning is not relevant.

It is relavant because that's what the US would end up with.

>
>Please try to learn to distinguish between your political rantings and the
>reality. I am sure what Pol Pot was planning is a worse case as well but it
>isn't relevant.
>
>> I suppose, us USAians could join your NHS and go to your doctors
>> for service.
>
>In theory yes.
>
>Hell of a flight to get a flu jab though.

If there isn't a distribution here, perhaps that's how some
get theirs.

>
>> Perhaps you would then learn some of the problems
>> of having to service too many people with finite resources.
>
>You think we don't have finite resources? The UK NHS has less money per head
>than the US medical systems. Can you explain why ours still works better
>than yours?

I've been trying to explain. You've kept it local. You have a small
geographic area. It is a lot easier to administer and deliver
services.

/BAH

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <Fbk6h.25028$TV3.17500(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:ejccbj$8ss_002(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>> In article <Hw06h.5436$IR4.3256(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ej9pdm$8qk_004(a)s785.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>>> In article <luM5h.3942$Sw1.2732(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
>>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>>> Ever wonder why most (all?) water
>>>>>treatment plants are adjacent to either a river, lake, or some other
>>>>>large
>>>>>body of water?
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>
>>>Well, that would be your problem, then.
>>
>> Not at all. I didn't have to question why because I knew why.
>
>Then why did you imply that it had anything to do with leach fields?
>

You are playing at a dangerous game. If you keep misinterpreting
on purpose just yank my chain, at some point the characteristic
may becaome automatic and you'll do this misinterpretation when
there are serious consequences.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <MPG.1fc3bbe568ee60e1989b38(a)news.individual.net>,
krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
>In article <ejccic$8ss_003(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
>> In article <eja0cc$9nk$1(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>> >In article <ej9pql$8qk_007(a)s785.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> >>In article <4557506C.83F6D696(a)earthlink.net>,
>> >[....]
>> >>> A tap is for threading holes.
>> >>
>> >>What? Explain, please?
>> >
>> >The tool for threading (cutting threads on the inside surface of) a hole
>> >is called a "rap". Imagine a threaded bolt with 4 grooves cut along its
>> >length adn a square head. It is made from very hard metal. You drill a
>> >hole and then run the tap in. The it is held by a tee-handle. You turn
>> >it one turn in and then back a half and so on.
>>
>> Thanks. I used to thread pipe for my Dad. He never called
>> it a tap. He called a threader.
>
>A pipe "threader" would be called a "die".
>
>> He had two kinds; one was
>> easy to use and the other one was a PITA for a little weak
>> kid to use.
>
>....but he made you use the hard one? ;-)
>
Yea, how did you know? I always wanted to do the easy one. That
was fun.

/BAH