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From: Ben Newsam on 15 Nov 2006 06:56 On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:45:29 -0800, Don Bowey <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote: >On 11/14/06 3:59 PM, in article kulkl2t5du1ohjr36o1sc00lvnrkq5q64v(a)4ax.com, >"Ben Newsam" <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: >> An extremely unlikely scenario. Extremely unlikely. If that were to >> happen, then you would obviously have to wait. It's never happened to >> me. > >Then you are fortunate. Incompatibilities between doctors and patients is >not rare, and is (without prejudice) grounds for change. There must be good >communications originated and accepted by each of them. I have changed doctor a few times when I felt I couldn't get on with the one I was assigned to. I was saying though, that I have never been unable to find a doctor because all their lists were full.
From: Ben Newsam on 15 Nov 2006 07:02 On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:06:41 +0000, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >They called themselves zippies as opposed to hippies and one of their mottos was >" love peace and a fair profit ". Makes sense really. I thought that lot were seriously hypocritical. "You don't have to be dead to be a-head" and so on. <Snort>
From: jmfbahciv on 15 Nov 2006 07:20 In article <eje1on$am6$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >In article <ejck7c$8qk_001(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >[....] >>>This person who can't follow complex instructions is on one side of the >>>negotiations on the other we have a manager with experience at keeping >>>their wages low. They aren't going to get the raise by negotiation >>>skill. >> >>These people are very aware about money. They can compare wage >>rates and are able to go to a competitor. They know about benefits >>and the advantages and disadvantages of each. All of them are >>very willing to tell you about all of this stuff :-). > >Who are the "these people" in the above. It is obvious it is not the >person I refered to. I was talking about the ones who work in stores in my area. > >>>The company that employs them is not a charity. Their purpose is to make >>>a profit for their shareholders. They won't be raising the wages >>>spontaneously. >> >>People get raises. > >Not everyone gets them. > >> >>>There is very little competition for workers at the very >>>low end of the scale. There are few jobs that really need to be done that >>>they are able to do. >> >>ARe you kidding? You need to pay attention more. We had a gal >>who could not think well in our computer group which turned >>stuff into ASCII for doc writers, spec writers, and programmers >>and their managers. Her talent was 120 WPM typing speed. She >>was taught how to "program" doc files with RUNOFF commands >>and churned out ASCII bits at a phenomenal rate. > >You are talking of a different person than the one I was using in my >example. The one in my example would not have been likely to be able to >do anything like that. Some people with low IQs are gifted but not all of >them. The people who work in our grocery stores do not seem to be particularly gifted. But they do know about money. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 15 Nov 2006 07:24 In article <GZadnR1moYq8q8fYnZ2dnUVZ8qmdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ejckhl$8qk_003(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <yt-dne7WCNI5zMrYRVnysw(a)pipex.net>, >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:ej7ffd$8qk_042(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <455615CC.2B8A045E(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >> Raising the minimum wage is stupid and insane. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >Why ? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. >>>>>> >> It eliminates wage competition. People's real productivity is >>>>>> >> no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >Can anyone actually live on that ? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> $10k/year? Yes. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >You wouldn't get far on ?5263 over here for sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn't say it was easy and one also has to give up a lot >>>>>> of middle class "attitudes" ;-). >>>>> >>>>>Around here you'd pay ~ ?3000 p.a. minimum just for >>>>>a very basic rented room ! >>>> >>>> In the US you can't plan on renting when you stop working. Part >>>> of way we live is to spend a part of our wages on a place to live >>>> that will become yours after a few years. That way you can >>>> eliminate paying rent as part of your living expense. >>> >>>Your argument has more holes than swiss cheese. >>> >>>You cant plan on renting anywhere when you stop working. If you are >>>earning >>>$200 a week, how do you save for a place to live? Where do you live while >>>you are saving? What do you eat? >> >> When I said plan, I meant long-term planning. That is why people >> buy their own house and start paying the money they earn while >> young to pay off the mortgage. When the mortgage is paid off, >> they don't pay rent. The plan to stay in the house when >> they quit working. > >When you are earning $200 per week, how much can you spare to pay off a >mortgage? What duration are US Mortgages? How much of a deposit is normally >put down? > >I know you meant long term planning, but earning minimum wage does not lend >itself to that kind of living. People have to eat. They have to pay bills. >They have to be able to save for a deposit. They have to live somewhere >while they are waiting to buy their house. Etc. You don't have to borrow. The Portuguese around here make it a family affair. Everybody in the extended family works, and then they buy a house for cash. No borrowing. Now the family has a house to live in and they begin to save for the next house. Eventually everybody has their own house. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 15 Nov 2006 07:28
In article <sdqdne_FT-okq8fYRVnyvg(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ejckhl$8qk_003(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <yt-dne7WCNI5zMrYRVnysw(a)pipex.net>, >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:ej7ffd$8qk_042(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> After my tuition and dorm fee were paid, I lived on $2/month when >>>> I went to college; the $2 included clothes washing and Tampax. >>> >>>I defy you to feed yourself on $2 a week. I defy you to feed yourself, >>>travel to and from work and afford work clothes on $2 a week. >> >> I defy you to think of ways to stop spending money. > >I can think of lots of ways. What does that have to do with what I said? You >claim to have lived on $2 a month as an example of how people should be so >happy to live on $200 per week. I did not claim that. I was pointing out it is possible to live cheaply. > I say not only are you living in a mystical >past of fifty years ago, but living on a wage of $200 per week in this day >and age is far from easy. I did not claim that it was easy. That is your middle class attitude butting in. /BAH |