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From: jmfbahciv on 1 Feb 2007 06:59 In article <45C0A2F3.91915C3E(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >> >> >> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>Even a representative democracy needs to have some way to deal >> >> >> >>with the people who go after little kids, and make other kinds >> >> >> >>of messes. A democracy does not, and never has, meant that >> >> >> >>all people can do anything they want without punishment. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Democracies create laws and enforce them to deal with such issues. >> >> >> >> >> >> Those laws apply to the citizens of that country during peace time. >> >> > >> >> >And in wartime too. >> >> >> >> No. You need to learn about your country's war powers and how >> >> much of your peacetime freedoms were suspended during WWII. >> > >> >Nonsense. >> > >> >How about an example ? >> >> Food coupons. > >In exactly what meaningful way is that a loss of 'freedom' ? You could not buy what you wanted nor what you needed without government permission. > >Rationing continued after the war btw. I know. That is another point of evidence that England couldn't shake the socialist type of governing. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 1 Feb 2007 07:02 In article <1ce64$45c0a4db$4fe73f1$10166(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Eeyore wrote: > >> >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Even a representative democracy needs to have some way to deal >>>>>>>>>with the people who go after little kids, and make other kinds >>>>>>>>>of messes. A democracy does not, and never has, meant that >>>>>>>>>all people can do anything they want without punishment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Democracies create laws and enforce them to deal with such issues. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Those laws apply to the citizens of that country during peace time. >>>>>> >>>>>>And in wartime too. >>>>> >>>>>No. You need to learn about your country's war powers and how >>>>>much of your peacetime freedoms were suspended during WWII. >>>> >>>>Nonsense. >>>> >>>>How about an example ? >>> >>>Food coupons. >> >> >> In exactly what meaningful way is that a loss of 'freedom' ? >> >> Rationing continued after the war btw. > >We provided lots of Care Packages to "starving Europe." > That is how people got meat. There was a marvelous book about a US lady who ordered books from a bookstore in England. She kept the people who worked at the store in basic food supplies like eggs, meat, and sugar after the war. I'll have to keep a watch out for that book. My library is throwing all of this kind of books out. Yesterday, I saw that they had dumped all ethnic cookbooks, all crafts, sewing and the science books about birds. Last week they had dumped all the Old West fiction books. All of them. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 1 Feb 2007 07:05 In article <6NGdnfCxSu7zRl3YRVnyhQA(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:epq6e8$8qk_004(a)s856.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <45BE08F0.6B3D2800(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>>> >> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>Even a representative democracy needs to have some way to deal >>>> >> >>with the people who go after little kids, and make other kinds >>>> >> >>of messes. A democracy does not, and never has, meant that >>>> >> >>all people can do anything they want without punishment. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >Democracies create laws and enforce them to deal with such issues. >>>> >> >>>> >> Those laws apply to the citizens of that country during peace time. >>>> > >>>> >And in wartime too. >>>> >>>> No. You need to learn about your country's war powers and how >>>> much of your peacetime freedoms were suspended during WWII. >>> >>>Nonsense. >>> >>>How about an example ? >> >> Food coupons. > >I think you misread. You were talking about freedoms. Do you mean the >freedom from Food coupons was suspended? I consider being told what I can buy and when I can buy it a loss of choice. Freedom involves each individual making choices and coping with the consequences of those choices. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 1 Feb 2007 07:08 In article <gfe2s256sd4p9tbmj6hev3dvbi08h341qk(a)4ax.com>, MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >On Wed, 31 Jan 07 13:51:28 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > >>In article <45BF4AF7.6D3EA07(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> I don't expect them to do a damned thing about Iran's atomic >>>> bombs. >>> >>>Iran has no atomic bombs. >> >>The news was reported that Iran started up their >>centrifuges this week. >> >>Just out of curiosity, do you keep a stick of TNT from blowing >>up by pulling the lit fuse when the fire is 1/4" away from >>the stick or by storing the fuses and the sticks in separate >>buildings? > A much better analogy would be to ask: > > How does one extinguish an oil well head fire? > > This is the type of solution that each facility needs. > > Bada Boom... Bada Big Boom -The Fifth Element > > You destroy one asset to gain control over and thereby keep another >from causing a problem. You don't destroy the means of a country's livelihood if your intention is to keep them from destroying the neighborhood. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 1 Feb 2007 07:16
In article <K_udnV1AiOLCUV3YnZ2dnUVZ8qqlnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:epqcu0$8ss_001(a)s1000.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <2fa56$45bf5287$4fe71bb$1435(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >><snip> >>> >>>I think eventually we'll discover they've found other ways >>>to do the training they used to do in their camps. >> >> Nono. You forget that we've only eradicated one set >> of camps whose protectors were located in a geographic >> area the world calls Afghanistan. >> >>> It >>>appears that one approach might be to run their people >>>through standard military combat training at the expense of >>>countries all around the world, then answer the call to jihad >>>whenever they're directly called upon by whoever their handler >>>is. >> >> Or a code word that is part of a news item. Or it could be >> tasks that are to be done when a riot occurs. >> >><snip> > >Can I ask a simple question? > >What is your "endstate?" > >By this, I mean at what point will you decide the mission is achieved and >the war is over? There won't be any. It will be a gradual change of mindset over the years. To achieve this, those who have the goal to destroy Western civilization have to be kept from achieving it. I suggest that you listen to Bush's speech. He explained all of this but nobody seems to have heard it in their zeal to "defeat" Bush by ceding to the Islamic terrorists. /BAH |