From: Ken Smith on 1 Feb 2007 10:21 In article <45C202E9.5BF28095(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >unsettled wrote: > >> Eeyore wrote: >> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> > >> >>Most devices these days are in warm start mode. Instead >> >>of measuring before and after power-on, the tests need >> >>to measure before and after _plug-in_. >> > >> > >> > Nothing is measured when it isn't plugged in ! >> >> You display your ignorance. The background is measured. > >After I hit send I realised I should have written "no product". I just knew an >idiot would complain. Still wrong. You missed all the cases where there is a backup battery. You have to measure when the plug is pulled adn the backup is in use too. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Eeyore on 1 Feb 2007 10:27 Ken Smith wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >unsettled wrote: > >> Eeyore wrote: > >> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> > > >> >>Most devices these days are in warm start mode. Instead > >> >>of measuring before and after power-on, the tests need > >> >>to measure before and after _plug-in_. > >> > > >> > > >> > Nothing is measured when it isn't plugged in ! > >> > >> You display your ignorance. The background is measured. > > > >After I hit send I realised I should have written "no product". I just knew an > >idiot would complain. > > Still wrong. You missed all the cases where there is a backup battery. > You have to measure when the plug is pulled adn the backup is in use too. Oh puhleeeze ! All this fuss over what's actually on and what's off ! I am aware of the differences. I was only trying to address BAH's stupid stove. Graham
From: krw on 1 Feb 2007 10:30 In article <45C2032F.F3336213(a)hotmail.com>, rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > unsettled wrote: > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >>>>MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: > > >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>You don't need an anechoic chamber btw. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>How do you measure the EMF in "noisy" environments? > > >>>>>>Or don't you need numbers anymore? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Device off, sensors read baseline noise reading. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Device on, sensors read local differential. Extrapolations get > > >>>>>made, figures get arrived at. Task complete. > > >>>> > > >>>>Your test has a big huge unfixable flaw. > > >>> > > >>>Perhaps you'd like to elaborate on that assertion ? > > >> > > >>The device has to be unplugged to get the baseline reading. > > > > > > > > > That's what "device off" MEANS ! > > > > > > Good Lord ! How daft are you ? > > > > LOL > > > > These days "device off" isn't really off. > > It is when the power cord isn't plugged in you cretin. Dumb donkey, that's what "unplugged" means. Wow, you are dense! -- Keith
From: Ken Smith on 1 Feb 2007 10:30 In article <epsu6l$qbr$7(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote: [.....] >>No, they exist because the US can't legally arrest the person in the other >>country. > >Hasn't stopped Bush. Look at what the German courts are now doing, issuing >arrest warrants for CIA agents. Ditto the Italian courts. That was kidnapping. Bush has made a big mess of this. In times gone by, the countries in question would "never notice any CIA agents". They would assume that the US would behave themselves and in return they would never point out a CIA agent to the enemy. This made it much easier for the CIA to do its job. Today, many countries are less friendly on the subject. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 1 Feb 2007 10:34
In article <45C206DE.40E8AFFD(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Ken Smith wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >unsettled wrote: >> >> Eeyore wrote: >> >> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> > >> >> >>Most devices these days are in warm start mode. Instead >> >> >>of measuring before and after power-on, the tests need >> >> >>to measure before and after _plug-in_. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Nothing is measured when it isn't plugged in ! >> >> >> >> You display your ignorance. The background is measured. >> > >> >After I hit send I realised I should have written "no product". I >just knew an >> >idiot would complain. >> >> Still wrong. You missed all the cases where there is a backup battery. >> You have to measure when the plug is pulled adn the backup is in use too. > >Oh puhleeeze ! All this fuss over what's actually on and what's off ! I >am aware of >the differences. I was just giving your chain a friendly little tug. > >I was only trying to address BAH's stupid stove. ..... and why do you assume that on her planet stoves don't have backup batteries? > >Graham > -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge |