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From: Eeyore on 1 Feb 2007 09:28 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >> > >> Could it be possible that people traveled to Pakistan and then > >> crossed the border to Al Queda's camps? > > > >It is possible. It is possible they went to Uzbekistan and crossed the > >border > > > >You claimed a report had stated it as a fact. Do you agree, now, that you > >were actually making things up? > > How can I be making up a new report I heard? You appear to make stuff up at will. Graham
From: Eeyore on 1 Feb 2007 09:31 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >There's far more to a case than the outer panels. > > I worked in the computer biz. And clearly know zilch about the hardware. > >> I thought thickening was one of ways to enclose EMFs. > > > >No. Avoiding holes is though. > > I didn't think that thin plastic kept EMF contained. Why did you bring plastic into the discussion ? > IIR the guys talking, the key was good alignment of the gun. Complete rubbish. Graham
From: Eeyore on 1 Feb 2007 09:36 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Compliance testing is routine these days. > >> >> > >> >> Not really. > >> > > >> >Yes it is. Most developed countries now require EMC compliance on all > >> >electrical and electronic products. It's a modestly large business. > >> > > >> >> I have to unplug my stove to listen to AM radio. > >> > > >> >Then your stove is very likely non-compliant with modern standards. > >> > >> It is a new stove. > > > >Then there's something seriously amiss. > > Right. I figured out the bug in thier emissions testings procedures. > I posted the bug yesterday. I didn't see that. Would you care to post it here ? > >> >> >> Now implement the production line that is so perfect all leaks > >> >> >> can't get out. > >> >> > > >> >> >It shouldn't be the job of the production line. > >> >> > >> >> Think about it. The production line has to be designed so > >> >> that the process doesn't leave any seam untoned. > >> > > >> >Good design means good design for production too. There > >> >should be no 'fiddly > >> >bits' requiring excessive labour to 'fettle'. > >> > >> This all costs oodles of money. > > > >No it doesn't. > > > >> To recover those costs, each > >> system has to have an inflated price that will pay for all costs > >> plus some. > > > >It costs almost nothing to design something well. > > Oh, son. You have a lot to learn. Hardly. I'm the one making the assertion from the perspective of designing the damn stuff. It has to pass testing you know ! I first took a serious interest in the subject about 20 yrs ago btw ( becoming the in-house compliance expert ) so I know a bit about it. > >In fact it can cost less than designing something badly. > > > >The methods required for good EMC performance are mostly simply 'good > >practice'. > > Now consider that the procedures used to test are flawed. Certainly not when I'm supervising them. Graham
From: Eeyore on 1 Feb 2007 09:42 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: > > > > And you think the culprit is? > > > > I'll clue you. One thing is the AM band on the radio. Very > >susceptible to AC wiring, and AC driven appliances. > > > > The other IS your house wiring. The stove should not "do" what it > >is doing, so I suspect your house wiring. Particularly since you > >don't even have any burners running on the stove. > > It isn't the burners. It is the computer board in the stove that > is bad. In which case you should alert the FCC. Graham
From: Eeyore on 1 Feb 2007 09:43
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > >> MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: > >> > >>> Device off, sensors read baseline noise reading. > >>> > >>> Device on, sensors read local differential. Extrapolations get > >>>made, figures get arrived at. Task complete. > >> > >>No wonder my stove doesn't work. > > > > It is your brain that isn't working. > > Most devices these days are in warm start mode. Instead > of measuring before and after power-on, the tests need > to measure before and after _plug-in_. Nothing is measured when it isn't plugged in ! Graham |