From: Eeyore on 1 Feb 2007 09:15 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > >> >> >> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>Even a representative democracy needs to have some way to deal > >> >> >> >>with the people who go after little kids, and make other kinds > >> >> >> >>of messes. A democracy does not, and never has, meant that > >> >> >> >>all people can do anything they want without punishment. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Democracies create laws and enforce them to deal with such issues. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Those laws apply to the citizens of that country during peace time. > >> >> > > >> >> >And in wartime too. > >> >> > >> >> No. You need to learn about your country's war powers and how > >> >> much of your peacetime freedoms were suspended during WWII. > >> > > >> >Nonsense. > >> > > >> >How about an example ? > >> > >> Food coupons. > > > >In exactly what meaningful way is that a loss of 'freedom' ? > > You could not buy what you wanted nor what you needed without > government permission. Permission ? The coupons could be used for many different foods btw. > >Rationing continued after the war btw. > > I know. That is another point of evidence that England couldn't > shake the socialist type of governing. It has zilch to do with socialism and everything to do with a shortage of food you nitwit. Did you know that health actually improved during the period of rationing btw ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 1 Feb 2007 09:17 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > > > >We provided lots of Care Packages to "starving Europe." > > > That is how people got meat. You think the only meat in Europe came from the USA ? Your fantasies are getting ever wider and more nonsensical. Rabbit is very tasty lean meat btw. Graham
From: Eeyore on 1 Feb 2007 09:18 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>>How about an example ? > >> > >> Food coupons. > > > >I think you misread. You were talking about freedoms. Do you mean the > >freedom from Food coupons was suspended? > > I consider being told what I can buy and when I can buy it > a loss of choice. Freedom involves each individual making choices > and coping with the consequences of those choices. I think you should read up about rationing during WW2. You have some daft fanciful ideas about it it seems. Graham
From: Eeyore on 1 Feb 2007 09:24 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > > >Can I ask a simple question? > > > >What is your "endstate?" > > > >By this, I mean at what point will you decide the mission is achieved and > >the war is over? > > There won't be any. Won't be any what ? Any point to it ? I can agree with that ! > It will be a gradual change of mindset over the years. To achieve this, those > who have the goal to destroy Western civilization have to be kept from > achieving it. You haven't even shown that anyone seeks to "destroy Western civilization" yet ! It's still just your assertion. > I suggest that you listen to Bush's speech. He explained all of this but > nobody seems to have heard it in their zeal to "defeat" Bush by ceding to the > Islamic terrorists. Bush couldn't explain his way out of a wet paper bag. And no-one is "ceding" anything either. Graham
From: Eeyore on 1 Feb 2007 09:26
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Pay attention to what happened in Boston yesterday; especially > follow what happens after this and what the critics are saying > and what these critics don't say. One thing you need to know > is that the mayor of Boston is the only politician here who > is taking the warnings of 9/11 seriously. Would you care to explain for us who don't live there what it is that happened in Boston ? Graham |