Jihad needs scientists
in [Design]
|
From: lucasea on 2 Oct 2006 22:39 "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:TDjUg.45469$bf5.3909(a)edtnps90... > > "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message > news:7ed3i2hh00fettsqj0csuni7mjbfqvtg60(a)4ax.com... > >> All that incident in Jasper, Texas, proved was that three racist >> whites killed a black man. >> >> Two of them were sentenced to death by lethal injection, and the >> third was sentenced to life. >> >> If this was a racist society they would all have gotten off with a >> year or so, if that. > > How long is it since you could blow up a church and murder children and > not be charged? Sadly, not long enough, but we have made strides. As those who grew up, for example, when it was tacitly OK to blow up a church, die off, gradually this type of behavior becomes less and less acceptable. It will be a *long* road, however, since there are so many other, more endemic, ways in which racism expresses itself. Attitudes change slowly, it's human nature. Eric Lucas
From: mmeron on 2 Oct 2006 22:42 In article <efship$e0d$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes: >In article <DkfUg.31$45.83(a)news.uchicago.edu>, > <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote: >>In article <efr907$sb7$5(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken >>Smith) writes: >>>In article <XxYTg.5$45.149(a)news.uchicago.edu>, >>> <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote: >[...] >>>>Islamic terrorists aim at destruction of the western society and >>>>you're not going to deter them because there is no deterring people >>>>who already decided that they don't care whether they live or die. >>> >>>Actually that is not true. Deterring people is about placing a treat >>>against what they value. You may be able to deter many of them with the >>>threat that if there is another attack, we will nuke Meca. >>> >>This, in fact, may work. We didn't get to this stage yet, but we may. >>But this level of deterrence is in the province of war, not police >>action. > >I picked a very extreme example on purpose. The point I wanted to make >was that there is some extreme thing that we can be fairly sure would >serve as a deterrent. I figured once I had that point made, I could then >go on to the less extreme but much more doable. > Yes, reasonable. > > >>>They also very likely would fear being held in prison for life. >>> >>This may be so but the technique of carrying poison on yourself at all >>times, so as to prevent the possibility of being taken alive is known >>for a long time. > >You don't get your 70 Verginians for killing your self so they may not be >willing to do this. > Oh, I'm sure you can find somebedy to issue a fatwa to the effect that killing yourself to avoid capture is legitimate. >> BTW, the fact that their leaders didn't adapt it yet >>is encouraging, in a way. > >It may be for religious reasons, because they want them to go down >fighting or because they haven't thought of it. I suspect that the last >is the least likely of the three, > I agree. Still, it may (just may) be possible that while willing to send others to blow themselves up, they're not as willing to die themselves. Though I wouldn't keep my hopes to high. Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool, meron(a)cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
From: John Larkin on 2 Oct 2006 22:47 On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:12:32 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:00:32 +0100, Eeyore wrote: >> >John Larkin wrote: >> >> >> >> I read about a recent experiment that was done in the UK. In response >> >> to advertised job openings, good but fake resumes were invented and >> >> sent in, with the only difference that some had English-sounding names >> >> and some had Muslim-sounding names. The response ratio was about 5:1. >> > >> >I suspect this is another urban myth actually. A similar thing was *really* >> >done with different ages in fact. >> >> It's in here... >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Muslim#Islamophobia_in_Europe > >" he asks whether Muslims will be the victims of the next pogroms " > >See my post on this point. > >That's why I laugh when American try lecturing us about being blind to the danger >from Islam. Do you guys seriously think we'd ever let them get the upper hand ? > >Graham Upper hand? What does Europe plan to do about the exponents of population growth, negative for the traditional population and positive for Islamic immigrants? John
From: "N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)" N: dlzc1 D:cox on 2 Oct 2006 22:48 Dear Homer J Simpson: "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:m3kUg.45502$bf5.5820(a)edtnps90... > > "Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message > news:efsi7m$e0d$2(a)blue.rahul.net... > >> I think if the US said it supported him, he'd be out by >> sunset. >> Only by having the US to blame and scare his population >> with does he maintain his position of power. Illegitimate >> governments have often used an external threat as a way >> to rally the populace behind themselves. > > Maybe we could get Bush to walk hand-in-hand with him. I'm pretty sure US presidents (or at least cabinet flunkies) had been seen walking hand-in-hand with Saddam. Not sure "reverse psychology" works all that well... David A. Smith
From: John Larkin on 2 Oct 2006 22:50
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 23:38:54 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >news:no33i2566o90atlu6iu6dnvkmiufdfcv0c(a)4ax.com... > >> You think they are guilty of criminal acts because they do not >> publicly condemn Muslim terrorism? That's a novel interpretation of >> law. Can we find you guilty of not condemming, well, everything that's >> illegal? Better start condemming... you have a lot of catching up to >> do. > >Isn't that now US law? If you fail to tell about a crime, even if you don't >know anything, you are guilty of something. What could you possibly tell if you don't know anything? >If you fail to confess, even if >you believe you are not guilty, you are now guilty of that. > Of not knowing anything? We don't have enough prisons! >More and more like the Soviets every day! Don't get your panties in a bunch. John |