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From: Lloyd Parker on 3 Oct 2006 05:49 In article <eft9s4$8ss_002(a)s888.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >In article <xA9Ug.7703$GR.5123(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>news:4520F44A.881C5E16(a)hotmail.com... >>> >>> >>> mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: >>> >>>> In article <efqje7$8ss_003(a)s821.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes: >>>> >In article <45206C37.EA6475DA(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> Western Europe wasn't interested in getting much involved in the >>>> >>> anshluss, because it wasn't the target of Nazi expansionism. >>>> >> >>>> >>All of which has zilch to do with this. >>>> > >>>> >Your comment is an example of why history has to repeat itself. >>>> > >>>> Yes, exactly. >>> >>> There is no exactly about it. >>> >>> It's just that the American fundamentalist Right has only scare tactics to >>> resort to and >>> nothing of substance whatever. >> >> >>....and if one chooses to draw parallels between our actions in the Middle >>East and 1933-1939 Germany, one parallel is the fact that Bush is using >>similar scare tactics to retain power, > >The anti-Bushers keep saying this and it makes absolutely no sense. >What do you mean "retain power"? He has a term in office which >will end. He won't retain any powers after the Inaugeration in 2009. > People probably mean keep Republican control of Congress -- without that Bush's powers will be quite curtailed. > >>take away peoples' rights, and kill a >>segment of the world population, in much the same propagandistic way that >>Hitler did. > >You've been listening to Democrats without thinking. Everything >coming out of their mouths is campaign speeches for 2004. This >is not a typo...I meant four. > >> Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Bush is the next >>Hitler, just that there *are* parallels between their misanthropic behavior, >>if hugely different in degree and consequence. > >You are excoriating Bush for doing one of his primary jobs which >is national security. I suppose you long for the days of the >Clintons where the goal was to breakdown all national security. Yes, that nightmare of peace and prosperity. How glad we are it's over!
From: Lloyd Parker on 3 Oct 2006 05:51 In article <jqhUg.45399$bf5.39370(a)edtnps90>, "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >news:hu33i2tqjfg6nfvg8d5o1krhaq0lr1umhi(a)4ax.com... > >> The issue is whether non-US-citizens have Constitutional rights when >> they are not physically in the USA, or whether US citizens have such >> rights when captured in a foreign country while fighting against our >> military. > >The US believes that US law applies everywhere in the world, but US >constitutional rights don't apply to anyone who isn't the 'right sort of >person'. > > > Tell me how many times the Bill of Rights says "people" and how many times it says "citizens."
From: Lloyd Parker on 3 Oct 2006 05:53 In article <p1iUg.9199$e66.6609(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:452198F0.A71D16AC(a)hotmail.com... >> >> >> John Fields wrote: >> >>> You miss no opportunity to lambaste the US, its population, its >>> government, its institutions, and you hate its very existence, so >>> what do you expect me to think, that you're a benevolent soul trying >>> to help with constructive criticism? >> >> I thought it was fine under Clinton ! > >Yes, but you see, if he denigrates your point of view by labelling you as >someone that could never say anything good about the US, then he doesn't >have to take your point of view seriously and try to understand that perhaps >it might even be a valid point of view, that an intelligent person may be >capable of coming to through independent thought. It's the same thing the >Bush administration does by labelling everyone that disagrees with it a >"traitor" (under the *extremely* liberal interpretations that disagreeing >with your government is tantamount to aiding the enemy.) What they seem to >fail to understand is that the Constitution gives every US citizen is given >the *responsibility* to question its government *every single* day of their >lives. It really is sad that the Bush administration has seen fit to >legitimize this sort of anti-American behavior. > >Eric Lucas > > Keith Olbermann had a good commentary a week or two ago about Bush calling a criticism "unacceptable."
From: John Fields on 3 Oct 2006 10:05 On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 03:26:20 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > ><lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >news:y3kUg.19044$Ij.9984(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > >> Sadly, not long enough, but we have made strides. As those who grew up, >> for example, when it was tacitly OK to blow up a church, die off, >> gradually this type of behavior becomes less and less acceptable. It will >> be a *long* road, however, since there are so many other, more endemic, >> ways in which racism expresses itself. Attitudes change slowly, it's >> human nature. > >And yet .... > >Three Girls Killed in Pennsylvania School Shooting > >A gunman has shot and killed three girls in a small Amish school in the >eastern U.S. state of Pennsylvania. > >Police say seven other people were injured Monday morning, some seriously, >before the gunman took his own life. A police official described the crime >scene as "horrendous." He said the gunman walked into the school, sent the >boys and some females outside, then tied up and shot the girls. --- And that has _what_ to do with racism??? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Fields on 3 Oct 2006 10:07
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 03:26:44 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >news:r0k3i2515kq9t03o9l9bqe9mdberpp4jlj(a)4ax.com... > >>>The US believes that US law applies everywhere in the world, but US >>>constitutional rights don't apply to anyone who isn't the 'right sort of >>>person'. > >> Preposterous. > >But still true. --- Just saying that it's true doesn't make it so. Prove your point if you expect to be believed. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |