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From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 10:21 John Fields wrote: > On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:59:42 +0100, "T Wake" wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message > >> > >> So what? With world domonation as its goal, one would expect it > >> would strike world-wide, as the opportunity arose. > > > > > >Whose goal? "It" isn't really appropriate to define the long term aims of a > >disparate group of organisations. Are "they" trying to dominate the world or > >destroy western society or convert every one or... > --- > "It" being radical Islam, the goal, in my opinion, would be to > convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by > Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam. > > Refusal to convert would result in death. There is no entity called 'radical Islam'. Who exactly do you mean ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 10:22 John Fields wrote: > On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:01:40 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >John Fields wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:11:54 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >> >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > >> >> In article <4520C55D.7B2F988C(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore writes: > >> >> > >> >> >You need to do some reading. OBL for example. > >> >> > >> >> I'm doing my reading. It is your reading that appears quite > >> >> superficial. Try following memri.org for a while, and that's just for > >> >> starters. > >> > > >> >I see they mention the Muslim Brotherhood. They're the ppl you really should be scared about. >> >Not > Islam generally. > >> > >> --- > >> Probably _you_ should be afraid. I don't think they've forgotten > >> the Crusades yet. > > > >Afraid of what exactly ? > > --- > Convert or die. What gives you the utterly fuckwitted idea I'd ever be in such a position ? Moslems only account for a tiny percentage of the population if you hadn't noticed. Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 10:24 John Fields wrote: > On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:13:49 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >John Fields wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:57:00 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >> >lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> > >> >> Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Bush is the next > >> >> Hitler, just that there *are* parallels between their misanthropic behavior, > >> >> if hugely different in degree and consequence. > >> > > >> >Very different. The outcome could be similar though. This is why the USA needs > >> >to be halted in its current idiotic behaviour. > >> > >> --- > >> And just how do you propose to do that? > > > >There's this thing called public opinion and it affects this other thing called > >politics. > > --- > Definitions aren't answers. > > I'll ask you again: "Just how do you propose to do that?" If you don't have any idea how individuals can influence things there's no point answering. Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 10:27 mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes: > > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote > >>> --- > >>> So what? With world domonation as its goal, one would expect it > >>> would strike world-wide, as the opportunity arose. > >> > >> > >>Whose goal? "It" isn't really appropriate to define the long term aims of a > >>disparate group of organisations. Are "they" trying to dominate the world or > >>destroy western society or convert every one or... > > > >--- > >"It" being radical Islam, the goal, in my opinion, would be to > >convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by > >Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam. > > > >Refusal to convert would result in death. > > No, not quite. True about the part of world domination, not about the > other one. Islam recognizes two categories of non-believers. One is > "polytheists" for whom, indeed, the accepted options are conversion or > death. The other is "Um al_Kitab", meaning "Nations of the Book", > which includes Christians and Jews. These may be allowed to live > without converting but only as "dhimmi" (you may check on this term). > Meaning, second class subjects, possessing the (limited) rights > granted them by their Muslim rulers, with the stipulation that said > rights may be withdrawn at the whim of the rulers. Until such time as Muslims exist in sufficient numbers the point is utterly moot. Graham
From: John Fields on 3 Oct 2006 10:28
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 04:10:11 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >news:d5l3i2trj8i6k1l80sr6151mtncu6efrqv(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:38:14 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> >>>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >>>news:4193i25jnfriiu1rskbtn7rdpdk6c38c8m(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:04:16 +0100, Eeyore >>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> And you claim to be human. >>>> >>>> Which is the bigger stretch? >>>> >>>> John Fields >>>> Professional Circuit Designer >>> >>>Given your repeatedly hurling insults at people, I think a far bigger >>>stretch is you applying the adjective "Professional" to yourself. I've >>>not >>>seen such unprofessional behavior from somebody who goes out of their way >>>to >>>label themselves a "professional" in a long time. There's a big >>>difference >>>between having a healthy disagreement that leads to mature discussion and >>>deeper understanding, and name-calling. >> >> --- >> The "professional" thing refers to what I do for a living. I'm a >> circuit designer, I get paid for it (except around here, where >> everything I do is pro bono :-) and I advertise here, but just a >> little, with my .sig and a real email address and link. >> >> As for the rest of it, it's USENET, so as far as I'm concerned it's >> pretty much a donnybrook where anything goes and there are no rules. >> Probably the last place on Earth where that's true and you can call >> a spade a spade without having to confront an armada of lawyers. >> >> I'm writing from sci.electronics.design, where we have a lot of >> world-class talent, so we attract a lot of world-class egos who >> fancy themselves to be fast-draw McGraw. >> >> Our job is to shoot them down before they convince themselves that >> they're 'Q' and really hurt themselves or someone else, so the >> insults are designed to cut through the bullshit and give them a >> glimpse of the real world. Or, maybe, _this_ world. >> >> In any case, no one wants to let go of their firmly held beliefs, no >> matter how stupid (just threw that in for shock value) they may be, >> so here we are. >> >> John Fields >> Professional Circuit Designer > >Please do remember that it's possible to do all that and still *act* civil, >i.e., like a professional. --- Thanks for the advice, but I think I'll forego the act and continue shooting from the hip, as is my style. :-) -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |