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"Zac Thompson" <ZThompson0901(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Zac Thompson" <ZThompson0901(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Mark" <Mark(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C1432507-26D7-42ED-B5E4-50C8710396E1(a)microsoft.com...
>>> Hi, i have spoken to virgin again and it looks like they have blocked
>>> the
>>> links to my web sites because they consider them as spam etc - although
>>> i am
>>> just using a free host. Its pretty bad though that they do not send back
>>> a
>>> email fail message explaining why so you know whats going on!
>>>
>>> Anyway, i took your advice and set up a gmail account tonight and sent
>>> myself the message and it works fine. I think i will also use google
>>> sites to
>>> set up my web site as well just to be safe than sorry again.
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for your help.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> You could always get yourself a free Gmail or Hotmail account, both of
>>>> which
>>>> can be accessed in OE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> > Changing could be my only choice then. I am certain i have been able
>>>> > to
>>>> > send
>>>> > massges like this in the past. Thus, if it is virgin i bet it is
>>>> > related
>>>> > to
>>>> > their recent email overhaul?
>>>> >
>>>> > All the best and thank you for your help
>>>> >
>>>> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> You have no control over this, no. But you can get another ISP,
>>>> >> hopefully
>>>> >> one where any such scanning isn't as intrusive.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>> Thank you, is this something i have no control over, i.e. the
>>>> >>> virgin
>>>> >>> server?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Then that leaves us with only one possible cause...
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 1. Anti-virus filtering on the outgoing (SMTP) mailserver
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> ....and or the recipient's incoming mailserver.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Thank you,
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I have created a new identity, but it still doesnt work.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> All versions of Norton have been removed with the norton tool -
>>>> >>>>> this
>>>> >>>>> was
>>>> >>>>> one of the first things i did after re-formatting / fresh
>>>> >>>>> reinstall. I
>>>> >>>>> used
>>>> >>>>> the tool a few times to make sure!!
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Tonight i thought i would do one more test by sending the message
>>>> >>>>> to
>>>> >>>>> myself
>>>> >>>>> and a copy to my daughter via web mail. I received the message
>>>> >>>>> fine
>>>> >>>>> but
>>>> >>>>> my
>>>> >>>>> daughter did not? I have 5 email adresses with this account (1 of
>>>> >>>>> which
>>>> >>>>> is
>>>> >>>>> my daughters and is on a laptop rather than my pc). I tried it
>>>> >>>>> from
>>>> >>>>> each
>>>> >>>>> and got the same result - only the email address acount that i
>>>> >>>>> sent it
>>>> >>>>> from
>>>> >>>>> would recieve. Therefore i am not confident in sending out my CV
>>>> >>>>> this
>>>> >>>>> way
>>>> >>>>> as i cant be 100% sure that it will work?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I just dont know what to do anymore, i think the traditional post
>>>> >>>>> will
>>>> >>>>> be
>>>> >>>>> the only way now?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Since (1) a copy of the sent message (with the attachment) is
>>>> >>>>>> found
>>>> >>>>>> in
>>>> >>>>>> Sent
>>>> >>>>>> Items folder and since (2) no email scanning is involved now and
>>>> >>>>>> since
>>>> >>>>>> (3)
>>>> >>>>>> you do not see the same behavior when sending via the webmail
>>>> >>>>>> page
>>>> >>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>> since (4) you are not sending via the same outgoing mailserver
>>>> >>>>>> when
>>>> >>>>>> sending via the webmail page as when sending from OE, [<whew>] I
>>>> >>>>>> can
>>>> >>>>>> only
>>>> >>>>>> think of three possible causes for the behavior:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 1. Anti-virus filtering on the outgoing (SMTP) mailserver;
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 2. A corrupt identity; and/or
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 3. Persistant Norton "leftovers" (assuming the Norton free trial
>>>> >>>>>> /was/
>>>> >>>>>> reinstalled when you did the clean install of Windows using the
>>>> >>>>>> disk
>>>> >>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>> came with the computer or the hidden Recovery partition).
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> You have no control over #1 so first see if the behavior
>>>> >>>>>> persists
>>>> >>>>>> when
>>>> >>>>>> sending such an email with your mail account set-up in a new
>>>> >>>>>> identity
>>>> >>>>>> (File |
>>>> >>>>>> Identities | Add new identity).
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> I am sorry, i posted the last reply twice and dont know how to
>>>> >>>>>>> remove
>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>> duplicate?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, i have tried sending the same full message both from
>>>> >>>>>>> outlook
>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>> webmail. It only works via webmail and this seems to be my only
>>>> >>>>>>> option
>>>> >>>>>>> at
>>>> >>>>>>> the minute. But i would like to try and sort it out through
>>>> >>>>>>> outlook
>>>> >>>>>>> as
>>>> >>>>>>> well
>>>> >>>>>>> please?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> thank you - please find below the answers:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Yes
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. No
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> 3 + 4a. Separate messages with no message text, from virgin
>>>> >>>>>>>> webmail:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Word - yes to both
>>>> >>>>>>>> PDF - yes to both
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> 3 + 4b. Separate messages with message text + web link, from
>>>> >>>>>>>> virgin
>>>> >>>>>>>> webmail:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Word - yes to both
>>>> >>>>>>>> PDF - yes to both
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> 3 + 4c. 1 message with message text + web link, from virgin
>>>> >>>>>>>> webmail:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Word + pdf in same message- yes to both
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> 5. Norton 2002 (full 12 months with pc purchase), versons 2005
>>>> >>>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>> 360
>>>> >>>>>>>> purchsed later and all removed will norton tool after
>>>> >>>>>>>> subscription
>>>> >>>>>>>> ended.
>>>> >>>>>>>> Reformated since to windows only (i.e no extra software as
>>>> >>>>>>>> included
>>>> >>>>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>>> packard bell pc).
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> 6. I havent had time to do a back up first and not prepared to
>>>> >>>>>>>> risk
>>>> >>>>>>>> installing SP3 until i do so (was going to do it over
>>>> >>>>>>>> Christmas
>>>> >>>>>>>> 2009).
>>>> >>>>>>>> Only
>>>> >>>>>>>> have a CDR drive to back up 11gb and just dont have the time
>>>> >>>>>>>> at the
>>>> >>>>>>>> minute.
>>>> >>>>>>>> Not intending on purchasing a external drive.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> I spent 2hrs with virgin yesterday using their on line chat
>>>> >>>>>>>> who
>>>> >>>>>>>> accesed
>>>> >>>>>>>> my
>>>> >>>>>>>> pc. They could not fix it and said they would come back with a
>>>> >>>>>>>> solution,
>>>> >>>>>>>> which they havent as yet.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> But after answering your questions i have decided to send the
>>>> >>>>>>>> intended
>>>> >>>>>>>> message again from outlook - send, goes into sent folder but
>>>> >>>>>>>> does
>>>> >>>>>>>> not
>>>> >>>>>>>> arrive in my inbox or at virgin. I think by the sound of
>>>> >>>>>>>> things it
>>>> >>>>>>>> must
>>>> >>>>>>>> be
>>>> >>>>>>>> to do with outlook on my pc?
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Hopefully this will shed a bit of light onto this strange
>>>> >>>>>>>> problem?
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> In no certain order...
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Does a copy of the sent message show up in Sent Items
>>>> >>>>>>>>> folder?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. Is the message found in your Virgin.net webmail inbox?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. If you send the same PDF file as an attachment from your
>>>> >>>>>>>>> webmail
>>>> >>>>>>>>> page,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> does the message & attachment show up in either inbox?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4. If you do not convert the Word document to a PDF file and
>>>> >>>>>>>>> attach
>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> DOC file to an email, does the message arrive in either
>>>> >>>>>>>>> inbox?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 5. Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been
>>>> >>>>>>>>> installed
>>>> >>>>>>>>> on
>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled
>>>> >>>>>>>>> when
>>>> >>>>>>>>> you
>>>> >>>>>>>>> bought it)?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 6. Why hasn't WinXP SP3 been installed yet?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> [Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After
>>>> >>>>>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>>>>> date,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further
>>>> >>>>>>>>> critical
>>>> >>>>>>>>> security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Windows
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Update
>>>> >>>>>>>>> website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have unistalled AVG using their removal tool as i did not
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> unistal
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> fully. Changed my mind and installed the Microsoft Security
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Essentials,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> which has updated and completed its first scan without any
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> viruses
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> found.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Afterwards i then re-sent the message and still havent
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> recieved
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> it?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ok, thank you - i will reinstall tonight. I have been
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> recomended
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> virus checker called
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> comodo and might give that a try instead.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a fresh install of AVG
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Free
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 9.0.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> time select the CUSTOM install option and do NOT install
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (i.e.,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> uncheck) Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active Surf-Shield,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Security
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar, or any of the email scanning components.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ================
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] Or consider replacing AVG with Microsoft Security
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Essentials
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Avira
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> AntiVir
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (http://www.free-av.com/en/trialpay_download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.htm),
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> both free and much more reliable than AVG IMHO.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the pdf file is an attachment (with a web link in
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> text
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> body)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> AVG is configured to set to scan incoming emails only - i
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> tried
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> turning this off and resending the message, but i makes
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> message still does not arrive (with a word file
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> attachement
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> link in the message body)?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I dont think the pdf file is a problem as i can send and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> recieve
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> these. It seesm to be with word file attachements and web
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> links
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the message
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> body.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus if i attach a pdf file with this combination it
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> arrives?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the PDF file an attachment?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is AVG configured to scan incoming and outgoing mail?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am having problems trying to send a word document
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with a
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hyperlink) and the same link in the message body of an
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> word
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is my CV and the link relates to my web site where
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be found (i.e nothing dodgy, im just looking for a new
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job).
>>
>>
>
>


From: Zac Thompson on

"Zac Thompson" <ZThompson0901(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Zac Thompson" <ZThompson0901(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23VExnQ1zKHA.5548(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uMC9IPAvKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> You could always get yourself a free Gmail or Hotmail account, both of
>>> which can be accessed in OE.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> Changing could be my only choice then. I am certain i have been able to
>>>> send
>>>> massges like this in the past. Thus, if it is virgin i bet it is
>>>> related to
>>>> their recent email overhaul?
>>>>
>>>> All the best and thank you for your help
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You have no control over this, no. But you can get another ISP,
>>>>> hopefully
>>>>> one where any such scanning isn't as intrusive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you, is this something i have no control over, i.e. the virgin
>>>>>> server?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then that leaves us with only one possible cause...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Anti-virus filtering on the outgoing (SMTP) mailserver
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ....and or the recipient's incoming mailserver.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have created a new identity, but it still doesnt work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All versions of Norton have been removed with the norton tool -
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> one of the first things i did after re-formatting / fresh
>>>>>>>> reinstall. I
>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> the tool a few times to make sure!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tonight i thought i would do one more test by sending the message
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> myself
>>>>>>>> and a copy to my daughter via web mail. I received the message
>>>>>>>> fine but
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> daughter did not? I have 5 email adresses with this account (1 of
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> my daughters and is on a laptop rather than my pc). I tried it from
>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>> and got the same result - only the email address acount that i sent
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> would recieve. Therefore i am not confident in sending out my CV
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>> as i cant be 100% sure that it will work?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just dont know what to do anymore, i think the traditional post
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> the only way now?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since (1) a copy of the sent message (with the attachment) is
>>>>>>>>> found in
>>>>>>>>> Sent
>>>>>>>>> Items folder and since (2) no email scanning is involved now and
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> (3)
>>>>>>>>> you do not see the same behavior when sending via the webmail page
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> since (4) you are not sending via the same outgoing mailserver
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>> sending via the webmail page as when sending from OE, [<whew>] I
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> think of three possible causes for the behavior:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Anti-virus filtering on the outgoing (SMTP) mailserver;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. A corrupt identity; and/or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3. Persistant Norton "leftovers" (assuming the Norton free trial
>>>>>>>>> /was/
>>>>>>>>> reinstalled when you did the clean install of Windows using the
>>>>>>>>> disk
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> came with the computer or the hidden Recovery partition).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have no control over #1 so first see if the behavior persists
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>> sending such an email with your mail account set-up in a new
>>>>>>>>> identity
>>>>>>>>> (File |
>>>>>>>>> Identities | Add new identity).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I am sorry, i posted the last reply twice and dont know how to
>>>>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> duplicate?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, i have tried sending the same full message both from
>>>>>>>>>> outlook
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> webmail. It only works via webmail and this seems to be my only
>>>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> the minute. But i would like to try and sort it out through
>>>>>>>>>> outlook as
>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>> please?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thank you - please find below the answers:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Yes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. No
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 + 4a. Separate messages with no message text, from virgin
>>>>>>>>>>> webmail:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Word - yes to both
>>>>>>>>>>> PDF - yes to both
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 + 4b. Separate messages with message text + web link, from
>>>>>>>>>>> virgin
>>>>>>>>>>> webmail:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Word - yes to both
>>>>>>>>>>> PDF - yes to both
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 + 4c. 1 message with message text + web link, from virgin
>>>>>>>>>>> webmail:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Word + pdf in same message- yes to both
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Norton 2002 (full 12 months with pc purchase), versons 2005
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> 360
>>>>>>>>>>> purchsed later and all removed will norton tool after
>>>>>>>>>>> subscription
>>>>>>>>>>> ended.
>>>>>>>>>>> Reformated since to windows only (i.e no extra software as
>>>>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> packard bell pc).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 6. I havent had time to do a back up first and not prepared to
>>>>>>>>>>> risk
>>>>>>>>>>> installing SP3 until i do so (was going to do it over Christmas
>>>>>>>>>>> 2009).
>>>>>>>>>>> Only
>>>>>>>>>>> have a CDR drive to back up 11gb and just dont have the time at
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> minute.
>>>>>>>>>>> Not intending on purchasing a external drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I spent 2hrs with virgin yesterday using their on line chat who
>>>>>>>>>>> accesed
>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> pc. They could not fix it and said they would come back with a
>>>>>>>>>>> solution,
>>>>>>>>>>> which they havent as yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But after answering your questions i have decided to send the
>>>>>>>>>>> intended
>>>>>>>>>>> message again from outlook - send, goes into sent folder but
>>>>>>>>>>> does not
>>>>>>>>>>> arrive in my inbox or at virgin. I think by the sound of things
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> to do with outlook on my pc?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully this will shed a bit of light onto this strange
>>>>>>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In no certain order...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Does a copy of the sent message show up in Sent Items
>>>>>>>>>>>> folder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is the message found in your Virgin.net webmail inbox?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. If you send the same PDF file as an attachment from your
>>>>>>>>>>>> webmail
>>>>>>>>>>>> page,
>>>>>>>>>>>> does the message & attachment show up in either inbox?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. If you do not convert the Word document to a PDF file and
>>>>>>>>>>>> attach
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> DOC file to an email, does the message arrive in either inbox?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been
>>>>>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled
>>>>>>>>>>>> when you
>>>>>>>>>>>> bought it)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Why hasn't WinXP SP3 been installed yet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> date,
>>>>>>>>>>>> computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further
>>>>>>>>>>>> critical
>>>>>>>>>>>> security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>> Update
>>>>>>>>>>>> website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have unistalled AVG using their removal tool as i did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unistal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fully. Changed my mind and installed the Microsoft Security
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Essentials,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which has updated and completed its first scan without any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> viruses
>>>>>>>>>>>>> found.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afterwards i then re-sent the message and still havent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recieved it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok, thank you - i will reinstall tonight. I have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recomended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> virus checker called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comodo and might give that a try instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a fresh install of AVG Free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time select the CUSTOM install option and do NOT install
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (i.e.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uncheck) Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active Surf-Shield,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar, or any of the email scanning components.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ================
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] Or consider replacing AVG with Microsoft Security
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Essentials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avira
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AntiVir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (http://www.free-av.com/en/trialpay_download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.htm),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both free and much more reliable than AVG IMHO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the pdf file is an attachment (with a web link in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> body)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AVG is configured to set to scan incoming emails only - i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turning this off and resending the message, but i makes no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message still does not arrive (with a word file attachement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link in the message body)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I dont think the pdf file is a problem as i can send and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recieve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these. It seesm to be with word file attachements and web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> body.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus if i attach a pdf file with this combination it never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the PDF file an attachment?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is AVG configured to scan incoming and outgoing mail?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am having problems trying to send a word document (with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hyperlink) and the same link in the message body of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> word
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is my CV and the link relates to my web site where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be found (i.e nothing dodgy, im just looking for a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> word document has also been converted as pdf with the web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link. Both document links work fine outside of outlook
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> express.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The message will send (can see the progress bar), but it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recieved and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not show up on the virgin server? I have sent this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to proove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this. If i re-send the message without the word document,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hyperlink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed from the message body and only the pdf attached,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have enabled pop3 on the virgin server, used the recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> virgin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool and un-checked "do not allow attachements" within
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oultook
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wont send the discussed message?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please can you help me to fix this as i really need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CV with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the web site link, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @virgin.net (email account)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outlook express 6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP home service pack 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Word 2002
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adobe reader 9
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avg free 8.5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows firewall
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


From: Zac Thompson on

"Zac Thompson" <ZThompson0901(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uPr1jW1zKHA.4656(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Zac Thompson" <ZThompson0901(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23jx0kQ1zKHA.1796(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Mark" <Mark(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E67FFAA8-568B-4A31-A15C-1E8CBA9864DC(a)microsoft.com...
>>> Changing could be my only choice then. I am certain i have been able to
>>> send
>>> massges like this in the past. Thus, if it is virgin i bet it is related
>>> to
>>> their recent email overhaul?
>>>
>>> All the best and thank you for your help
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> You have no control over this, no. But you can get another ISP,
>>>> hopefully
>>>> one where any such scanning isn't as intrusive.
>>>>
>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> > Thank you, is this something i have no control over, i.e. the virgin
>>>> > server?
>>>> >
>>>> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Then that leaves us with only one possible cause...
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>> 1. Anti-virus filtering on the outgoing (SMTP) mailserver
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ....and or the recipient's incoming mailserver.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>> Thank you,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I have created a new identity, but it still doesnt work.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> All versions of Norton have been removed with the norton tool -
>>>> >>> this
>>>> >>> was
>>>> >>> one of the first things i did after re-formatting / fresh
>>>> >>> reinstall. I
>>>> >>> used
>>>> >>> the tool a few times to make sure!!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Tonight i thought i would do one more test by sending the message
>>>> >>> to
>>>> >>> myself
>>>> >>> and a copy to my daughter via web mail. I received the message
>>>> >>> fine but
>>>> >>> my
>>>> >>> daughter did not? I have 5 email adresses with this account (1 of
>>>> >>> which
>>>> >>> is
>>>> >>> my daughters and is on a laptop rather than my pc). I tried it from
>>>> >>> each
>>>> >>> and got the same result - only the email address acount that i sent
>>>> >>> it
>>>> >>> from
>>>> >>> would recieve. Therefore i am not confident in sending out my CV
>>>> >>> this
>>>> >>> way
>>>> >>> as i cant be 100% sure that it will work?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I just dont know what to do anymore, i think the traditional post
>>>> >>> will
>>>> >>> be
>>>> >>> the only way now?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Since (1) a copy of the sent message (with the attachment) is
>>>> >>>> found in
>>>> >>>> Sent
>>>> >>>> Items folder and since (2) no email scanning is involved now and
>>>> >>>> since
>>>> >>>> (3)
>>>> >>>> you do not see the same behavior when sending via the webmail page
>>>> >>>> and
>>>> >>>> since (4) you are not sending via the same outgoing mailserver
>>>> >>>> when
>>>> >>>> sending via the webmail page as when sending from OE, [<whew>] I
>>>> >>>> can
>>>> >>>> only
>>>> >>>> think of three possible causes for the behavior:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 1. Anti-virus filtering on the outgoing (SMTP) mailserver;
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 2. A corrupt identity; and/or
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 3. Persistant Norton "leftovers" (assuming the Norton free trial
>>>> >>>> /was/
>>>> >>>> reinstalled when you did the clean install of Windows using the
>>>> >>>> disk
>>>> >>>> that
>>>> >>>> came with the computer or the hidden Recovery partition).
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> You have no control over #1 so first see if the behavior persists
>>>> >>>> when
>>>> >>>> sending such an email with your mail account set-up in a new
>>>> >>>> identity
>>>> >>>> (File |
>>>> >>>> Identities | Add new identity).
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>> I am sorry, i posted the last reply twice and dont know how to
>>>> >>>>> remove
>>>> >>>>> the
>>>> >>>>> duplicate?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Anyway, i have tried sending the same full message both from
>>>> >>>>> outlook
>>>> >>>>> and
>>>> >>>>> webmail. It only works via webmail and this seems to be my only
>>>> >>>>> option
>>>> >>>>> at
>>>> >>>>> the minute. But i would like to try and sort it out through
>>>> >>>>> outlook as
>>>> >>>>> well
>>>> >>>>> please?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> thank you - please find below the answers:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 1. Yes
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 2. No
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 3 + 4a. Separate messages with no message text, from virgin
>>>> >>>>>> webmail:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Word - yes to both
>>>> >>>>>> PDF - yes to both
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 3 + 4b. Separate messages with message text + web link, from
>>>> >>>>>> virgin
>>>> >>>>>> webmail:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Word - yes to both
>>>> >>>>>> PDF - yes to both
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 3 + 4c. 1 message with message text + web link, from virgin
>>>> >>>>>> webmail:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Word + pdf in same message- yes to both
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 5. Norton 2002 (full 12 months with pc purchase), versons 2005
>>>> >>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>> 360
>>>> >>>>>> purchsed later and all removed will norton tool after
>>>> >>>>>> subscription
>>>> >>>>>> ended.
>>>> >>>>>> Reformated since to windows only (i.e no extra software as
>>>> >>>>>> included
>>>> >>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>> packard bell pc).
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 6. I havent had time to do a back up first and not prepared to
>>>> >>>>>> risk
>>>> >>>>>> installing SP3 until i do so (was going to do it over Christmas
>>>> >>>>>> 2009).
>>>> >>>>>> Only
>>>> >>>>>> have a CDR drive to back up 11gb and just dont have the time at
>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>> minute.
>>>> >>>>>> Not intending on purchasing a external drive.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I spent 2hrs with virgin yesterday using their on line chat who
>>>> >>>>>> accesed
>>>> >>>>>> my
>>>> >>>>>> pc. They could not fix it and said they would come back with a
>>>> >>>>>> solution,
>>>> >>>>>> which they havent as yet.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> But after answering your questions i have decided to send the
>>>> >>>>>> intended
>>>> >>>>>> message again from outlook - send, goes into sent folder but
>>>> >>>>>> does not
>>>> >>>>>> arrive in my inbox or at virgin. I think by the sound of things
>>>> >>>>>> it
>>>> >>>>>> must
>>>> >>>>>> be
>>>> >>>>>> to do with outlook on my pc?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Hopefully this will shed a bit of light onto this strange
>>>> >>>>>> problem?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> In no certain order...
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Does a copy of the sent message show up in Sent Items
>>>> >>>>>>> folder?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Is the message found in your Virgin.net webmail inbox?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> 3. If you send the same PDF file as an attachment from your
>>>> >>>>>>> webmail
>>>> >>>>>>> page,
>>>> >>>>>>> does the message & attachment show up in either inbox?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> 4. If you do not convert the Word document to a PDF file and
>>>> >>>>>>> attach
>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>> DOC file to an email, does the message arrive in either inbox?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been
>>>> >>>>>>> installed
>>>> >>>>>>> on
>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled
>>>> >>>>>>> when you
>>>> >>>>>>> bought it)?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> 6. Why hasn't WinXP SP3 been installed yet?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> [Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After
>>>> >>>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>>> date,
>>>> >>>>>>> computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further
>>>> >>>>>>> critical
>>>> >>>>>>> security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows
>>>> >>>>>>> Update
>>>> >>>>>>> website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.]
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>> I have unistalled AVG using their removal tool as i did not
>>>> >>>>>>>> unistal
>>>> >>>>>>>> fully. Changed my mind and installed the Microsoft Security
>>>> >>>>>>>> Essentials,
>>>> >>>>>>>> which has updated and completed its first scan without any
>>>> >>>>>>>> viruses
>>>> >>>>>>>> found.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Afterwards i then re-sent the message and still havent
>>>> >>>>>>>> recieved it?
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> ok, thank you - i will reinstall tonight. I have been
>>>> >>>>>>>>> recomended
>>>> >>>>>>>>> another
>>>> >>>>>>>>> virus checker called
>>>> >>>>>>>>> comodo and might give that a try instead.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a fresh install of AVG Free
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 9.0.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> time select the CUSTOM install option and do NOT install
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (i.e.,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> uncheck) Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active Surf-Shield,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Security
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> toolbar, or any of the email scanning components.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ================
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] Or consider replacing AVG with Microsoft Security
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Essentials
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> or
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Avira
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> AntiVir
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (http://www.free-av.com/en/trialpay_download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.htm),
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> both free and much more reliable than AVG IMHO.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the pdf file is an attachment (with a web link in the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> text
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> body)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> AVG is configured to set to scan incoming emails only - i
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> tried
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> turning this off and resending the message, but i makes no
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> message still does not arrive (with a word file attachement
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> link in the message body)?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I dont think the pdf file is a problem as i can send and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> recieve
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> these. It seesm to be with word file attachements and web
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> links
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the message
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> body.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thus if i attach a pdf file with this combination it never
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> arrives?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is the PDF file an attachment?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is AVG configured to scan incoming and outgoing mail?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am having problems trying to send a word document (with
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hyperlink) and the same link in the message body of an
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> email.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> word
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is my CV and the link relates to my web site where
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> examples of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> be found (i.e nothing dodgy, im just looking for a new
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> job).
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> word document has also been converted as pdf with the web
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> link. Both document links work fine outside of outlook
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> express.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The message will send (can see the progress bar), but it
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> recieved and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> does not show up on the virgin server? I have sent this
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to my
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> self
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to proove
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this. If i re-send the message without the word document,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hyperlink
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> removed from the message body and only the pdf attached,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fine?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have enabled pop3 on the virgin server, used the recent
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> virgin
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> message fix
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> tool and un-checked "do not allow attachements" within
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> oultook
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> still it
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wont send the discussed message?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please can you help me to fix this as i really need to
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> send
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CV with
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the web site link, thank you.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> @virgin.net (email account)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Outlook express 6
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> XP home service pack 2
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Word 2002
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> adobe reader 9
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> avg free 8.5
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> windows firewall
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> .
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> .
>>>> >>
>>
>>
>
>


From: Zac Thompson on

"Zac Thompson" <ZThompson0901(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ee75sW1zKHA.5164(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "Zac Thompson" <ZThompson0901(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OlZEgQ1zKHA.4328(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Mark" <Mark(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E8F9857B-7A7B-4ED7-A418-0C5F36B963CD(a)microsoft.com...
>>> Thank you, is this something i have no control over, i.e. the virgin
>>> server?
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then that leaves us with only one possible cause...
>>>>
>>>> >> 1. Anti-virus filtering on the outgoing (SMTP) mailserver
>>>>
>>>> ....and or the recipient's incoming mailserver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> > Thank you,
>>>> >
>>>> > I have created a new identity, but it still doesnt work.
>>>> >
>>>> > All versions of Norton have been removed with the norton tool - this
>>>> > was
>>>> > one of the first things i did after re-formatting / fresh reinstall.
>>>> > I
>>>> > used
>>>> > the tool a few times to make sure!!
>>>> >
>>>> > Tonight i thought i would do one more test by sending the message to
>>>> > myself
>>>> > and a copy to my daughter via web mail. I received the message fine
>>>> > but
>>>> > my
>>>> > daughter did not? I have 5 email adresses with this account (1 of
>>>> > which is
>>>> > my daughters and is on a laptop rather than my pc). I tried it from
>>>> > each
>>>> > and got the same result - only the email address acount that i sent
>>>> > it
>>>> > from
>>>> > would recieve. Therefore i am not confident in sending out my CV this
>>>> > way
>>>> > as i cant be 100% sure that it will work?
>>>> >
>>>> > I just dont know what to do anymore, i think the traditional post
>>>> > will be
>>>> > the only way now?
>>>> >
>>>> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Since (1) a copy of the sent message (with the attachment) is found
>>>> >> in
>>>> >> Sent
>>>> >> Items folder and since (2) no email scanning is involved now and
>>>> >> since
>>>> >> (3)
>>>> >> you do not see the same behavior when sending via the webmail page
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> since (4) you are not sending via the same outgoing mailserver when
>>>> >> sending via the webmail page as when sending from OE, [<whew>] I can
>>>> >> only
>>>> >> think of three possible causes for the behavior:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1. Anti-virus filtering on the outgoing (SMTP) mailserver;
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2. A corrupt identity; and/or
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 3. Persistant Norton "leftovers" (assuming the Norton free trial
>>>> >> /was/
>>>> >> reinstalled when you did the clean install of Windows using the disk
>>>> >> that
>>>> >> came with the computer or the hidden Recovery partition).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You have no control over #1 so first see if the behavior persists
>>>> >> when
>>>> >> sending such an email with your mail account set-up in a new
>>>> >> identity
>>>> >> (File |
>>>> >> Identities | Add new identity).
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>> I am sorry, i posted the last reply twice and dont know how to
>>>> >>> remove
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >>> duplicate?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Anyway, i have tried sending the same full message both from
>>>> >>> outlook and
>>>> >>> webmail. It only works via webmail and this seems to be my only
>>>> >>> option
>>>> >>> at
>>>> >>> the minute. But i would like to try and sort it out through outlook
>>>> >>> as
>>>> >>> well
>>>> >>> please?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> thank you - please find below the answers:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 1. Yes
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 2. No
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 3 + 4a. Separate messages with no message text, from virgin
>>>> >>>> webmail:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Word - yes to both
>>>> >>>> PDF - yes to both
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 3 + 4b. Separate messages with message text + web link, from
>>>> >>>> virgin
>>>> >>>> webmail:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Word - yes to both
>>>> >>>> PDF - yes to both
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 3 + 4c. 1 message with message text + web link, from virgin
>>>> >>>> webmail:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Word + pdf in same message- yes to both
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 5. Norton 2002 (full 12 months with pc purchase), versons 2005 and
>>>> >>>> 360
>>>> >>>> purchsed later and all removed will norton tool after subscription
>>>> >>>> ended.
>>>> >>>> Reformated since to windows only (i.e no extra software as
>>>> >>>> included
>>>> >>>> with
>>>> >>>> packard bell pc).
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 6. I havent had time to do a back up first and not prepared to
>>>> >>>> risk
>>>> >>>> installing SP3 until i do so (was going to do it over Christmas
>>>> >>>> 2009).
>>>> >>>> Only
>>>> >>>> have a CDR drive to back up 11gb and just dont have the time at
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>> minute.
>>>> >>>> Not intending on purchasing a external drive.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I spent 2hrs with virgin yesterday using their on line chat who
>>>> >>>> accesed
>>>> >>>> my
>>>> >>>> pc. They could not fix it and said they would come back with a
>>>> >>>> solution,
>>>> >>>> which they havent as yet.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> But after answering your questions i have decided to send the
>>>> >>>> intended
>>>> >>>> message again from outlook - send, goes into sent folder but does
>>>> >>>> not
>>>> >>>> arrive in my inbox or at virgin. I think by the sound of things it
>>>> >>>> must
>>>> >>>> be
>>>> >>>> to do with outlook on my pc?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Hopefully this will shed a bit of light onto this strange problem?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> In no certain order...
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> 1. Does a copy of the sent message show up in Sent Items folder?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> 2. Is the message found in your Virgin.net webmail inbox?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> 3. If you send the same PDF file as an attachment from your
>>>> >>>>> webmail
>>>> >>>>> page,
>>>> >>>>> does the message & attachment show up in either inbox?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> 4. If you do not convert the Word document to a PDF file and
>>>> >>>>> attach
>>>> >>>>> the
>>>> >>>>> DOC file to an email, does the message arrive in either inbox?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> 5. Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been
>>>> >>>>> installed on
>>>> >>>>> the
>>>> >>>>> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when
>>>> >>>>> you
>>>> >>>>> bought it)?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> 6. Why hasn't WinXP SP3 been installed yet?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> [Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After that
>>>> >>>>> date,
>>>> >>>>> computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further
>>>> >>>>> critical
>>>> >>>>> security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows
>>>> >>>>> Update
>>>> >>>>> website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.]
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> I have unistalled AVG using their removal tool as i did not
>>>> >>>>>> unistal
>>>> >>>>>> fully. Changed my mind and installed the Microsoft Security
>>>> >>>>>> Essentials,
>>>> >>>>>> which has updated and completed its first scan without any
>>>> >>>>>> viruses
>>>> >>>>>> found.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Afterwards i then re-sent the message and still havent recieved
>>>> >>>>>> it?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> ok, thank you - i will reinstall tonight. I have been
>>>> >>>>>>> recomended
>>>> >>>>>>> another
>>>> >>>>>>> virus checker called
>>>> >>>>>>> comodo and might give that a try instead.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>> Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a fresh install of AVG Free
>>>> >>>>>>>> 9.0.
>>>> >>>>>>>> [1]
>>>> >>>>>>>> This
>>>> >>>>>>>> time select the CUSTOM install option and do NOT install
>>>> >>>>>>>> (i.e.,
>>>> >>>>>>>> uncheck) Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active Surf-Shield,
>>>> >>>>>>>> Security
>>>> >>>>>>>> toolbar, or any of the email scanning components.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ================
>>>> >>>>>>>> [1] Or consider replacing AVG with Microsoft Security
>>>> >>>>>>>> Essentials
>>>> >>>>>>>> (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx) or
>>>> >>>>>>>> Avira
>>>> >>>>>>>> AntiVir
>>>> >>>>>>>> (http://www.free-av.com/en/trialpay_download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.htm),
>>>> >>>>>>>> both free and much more reliable than AVG IMHO.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, the pdf file is an attachment (with a web link in the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> text
>>>> >>>>>>>>> body)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> AVG is configured to set to scan incoming emails only - i
>>>> >>>>>>>>> have
>>>> >>>>>>>>> also
>>>> >>>>>>>>> tried
>>>> >>>>>>>>> turning this off and resending the message, but i makes no
>>>> >>>>>>>>> difference
>>>> >>>>>>>>> as
>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> message still does not arrive (with a word file attachement
>>>> >>>>>>>>> and a
>>>> >>>>>>>>> web
>>>> >>>>>>>>> link in the message body)?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I dont think the pdf file is a problem as i can send and
>>>> >>>>>>>>> recieve
>>>> >>>>>>>>> these. It seesm to be with word file attachements and web
>>>> >>>>>>>>> links
>>>> >>>>>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>>>> the message
>>>> >>>>>>>>> body.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thus if i attach a pdf file with this combination it never
>>>> >>>>>>>>> arrives?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is the PDF file an attachment?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is AVG configured to scan incoming and outgoing mail?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am having problems trying to send a word document (with a
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hyperlink) and the same link in the message body of an
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> email.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> word
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> is my CV and the link relates to my web site where examples
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> be found (i.e nothing dodgy, im just looking for a new
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> job). The
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> word document has also been converted as pdf with the web
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> link. Both document links work fine outside of outlook
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> express.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The message will send (can see the progress bar), but it is
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> recieved and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> does not show up on the virgin server? I have sent this to
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> self
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to proove
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this. If i re-send the message without the word document,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hyperlink
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> removed from the message body and only the pdf attached, it
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> fine?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have enabled pop3 on the virgin server, used the recent
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> virgin
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> message fix
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> tool and un-checked "do not allow attachements" within
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> oultook
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> still it
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wont send the discussed message?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please can you help me to fix this as i really need to send
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> CV with
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the web site link, thank you.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am using:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @virgin.net (email account)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Outlook express 6
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XP home service pack 2
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Word 2002
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> adobe reader 9
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> avg free 8.5
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> windows firewall
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> .
>>>> >>
>>>> >> .
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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>
> "Zac Thompson" <ZThompson0901(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eEBxbQ1zKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Mark" <Mark(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:22D2D575-4B62-4C34-BF29-26E258A27E10(a)microsoft.com...
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> I have created a new identity, but it still doesnt work.
>>>
>>> All versions of Norton have been removed with the norton tool - this
>>> was
>>> one of the first things i did after re-formatting / fresh reinstall. I
>>> used
>>> the tool a few times to make sure!!
>>>
>>> Tonight i thought i would do one more test by sending the message to
>>> myself
>>> and a copy to my daughter via web mail. I received the message fine but
>>> my
>>> daughter did not? I have 5 email adresses with this account (1 of which
>>> is my
>>> daughters and is on a laptop rather than my pc). I tried it from each
>>> and got
>>> the same result - only the email address acount that i sent it from
>>> would
>>> recieve. Therefore i am not confident in sending out my CV this way as i
>>> cant
>>> be 100% sure that it will work?
>>>
>>> I just dont know what to do anymore, i think the traditional post will
>>> be
>>> the only way now?
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since (1) a copy of the sent message (with the attachment) is found in
>>>> Sent
>>>> Items folder and since (2) no email scanning is involved now and since
>>>> (3)
>>>> you do not see the same behavior when sending via the webmail page and
>>>> since
>>>> (4) you are not sending via the same outgoing mailserver when sending
>>>> via
>>>> the webmail page as when sending from OE, [<whew>] I can only think of
>>>> three
>>>> possible causes for the behavior:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Anti-virus filtering on the outgoing (SMTP) mailserver;
>>>>
>>>> 2. A corrupt identity; and/or
>>>>
>>>> 3. Persistant Norton "leftovers" (assuming the Norton free trial /was/
>>>> reinstalled when you did the clean install of Windows using the disk
>>>> that
>>>> came with the computer or the hidden Recovery partition).
>>>>
>>>> You have no control over #1 so first see if the behavior persists when
>>>> sending such an email with your mail account set-up in a new identity
>>>> (File
>>>> | Identities | Add new identity).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> > I am sorry, i posted the last reply twice and dont know how to remove
>>>> > the
>>>> > duplicate?
>>>> >
>>>> > Anyway, i have tried sending the same full message both from outlook
>>>> > and
>>>> > webmail. It only works via webmail and this seems to be my only
>>>> > option at
>>>> > the minute. But i would like to try and sort it out through outlook
>>>> > as
>>>> > well
>>>> > please?
>>>> >
>>>> >> thank you - please find below the answers:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1. Yes
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2. No
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 3 + 4a. Separate messages with no message text, from virgin webmail:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Word - yes to both
>>>> >> PDF - yes to both
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 3 + 4b. Separate messages with message text + web link, from virgin
>>>> >> webmail:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Word - yes to both
>>>> >> PDF - yes to both
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 3 + 4c. 1 message with message text + web link, from virgin webmail:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Word + pdf in same message- yes to both
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 5. Norton 2002 (full 12 months with pc purchase), versons 2005 and
>>>> >> 360
>>>> >> purchsed later and all removed will norton tool after subscription
>>>> >> ended.
>>>> >> Reformated since to windows only (i.e no extra software as included
>>>> >> with
>>>> >> packard bell pc).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 6. I havent had time to do a back up first and not prepared to risk
>>>> >> installing SP3 until i do so (was going to do it over Christmas
>>>> >> 2009).
>>>> >> Only
>>>> >> have a CDR drive to back up 11gb and just dont have the time at the
>>>> >> minute.
>>>> >> Not intending on purchasing a external drive.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I spent 2hrs with virgin yesterday using their on line chat who
>>>> >> accesed
>>>> >> my
>>>> >> pc. They could not fix it and said they would come back with a
>>>> >> solution,
>>>> >> which they havent as yet.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> But after answering your questions i have decided to send the
>>>> >> intended
>>>> >> message again from outlook - send, goes into sent folder but does
>>>> >> not
>>>> >> arrive in my inbox or at virgin. I think by the sound of things it
>>>> >> must
>>>> >> be
>>>> >> to do with outlook on my pc?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hopefully this will shed a bit of light onto this strange problem?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> In no certain order...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 1. Does a copy of the sent message show up in Sent Items folder?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 2. Is the message found in your Virgin.net webmail inbox?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 3. If you send the same PDF file as an attachment from your webmail
>>>> >>> page,
>>>> >>> does the message & attachment show up in either inbox?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 4. If you do not convert the Word document to a PDF file and attach
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >>> DOC file to an email, does the message arrive in either inbox?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 5. Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed
>>>> >>> on
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >>> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when
>>>> >>> you
>>>> >>> bought it)?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 6. Why hasn't WinXP SP3 been installed yet?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> [Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After that
>>>> >>> date,
>>>> >>> computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further
>>>> >>> critical
>>>> >>> security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows
>>>> >>> Update
>>>> >>> website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.]
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>> I have unistalled AVG using their removal tool as i did not
>>>> >>>> unistal
>>>> >>>> fully. Changed my mind and installed the Microsoft Security
>>>> >>>> Essentials,
>>>> >>>> which has updated and completed its first scan without any viruses
>>>> >>>> found.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Afterwards i then re-sent the message and still havent recieved
>>>> >>>> it?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> ok, thank you - i will reinstall tonight. I have been recomended
>>>> >>>>> another
>>>> >>>>> virus checker called
>>>> >>>>> comodo and might give that a try instead.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a fresh install of AVG Free 9.0.
>>>> >>>>>> [1]
>>>> >>>>>> This
>>>> >>>>>> time select the CUSTOM install option and do NOT install (i.e.,
>>>> >>>>>> uncheck) Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active Surf-Shield,
>>>> >>>>>> Security
>>>> >>>>>> toolbar, or any of the email scanning components.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> ================
>>>> >>>>>> [1] Or consider replacing AVG with Microsoft Security Essentials
>>>> >>>>>> (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx) or
>>>> >>>>>> Avira
>>>> >>>>>> AntiVir
>>>> >>>>>> (http://www.free-av.com/en/trialpay_download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.htm),
>>>> >>>>>> both free and much more reliable than AVG IMHO.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, the pdf file is an attachment (with a web link in the text
>>>> >>>>>>> body)
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> AVG is configured to set to scan incoming emails only - i have
>>>> >>>>>>> also
>>>> >>>>>>> tried
>>>> >>>>>>> turning this off and resending the message, but i makes no
>>>> >>>>>>> difference
>>>> >>>>>>> as
>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>> message still does not arrive (with a word file attachement and
>>>> >>>>>>> a
>>>> >>>>>>> web
>>>> >>>>>>> link in the message body)?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> I dont think the pdf file is a problem as i can send and
>>>> >>>>>>> recieve
>>>> >>>>>>> these. It seesm to be with word file attachements and web links
>>>> >>>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>> the message
>>>> >>>>>>> body.
>>>> >>>>>>> Thus if i attach a pdf file with this combination it never
>>>> >>>>>>> arrives?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Is the PDF file an attachment?
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Is AVG configured to scan incoming and outgoing mail?
>>>> >>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> >>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am having problems trying to send a word document (with a
>>>> >>>>>>>>> web
>>>> >>>>>>>>> site
>>>> >>>>>>>>> hyperlink) and the same link in the message body of an email.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> The
>>>> >>>>>>>>> word
>>>> >>>>>>>>> file
>>>> >>>>>>>>> is my CV and the link relates to my web site where examples
>>>> >>>>>>>>> of my
>>>> >>>>>>>>> work
>>>> >>>>>>>>> can
>>>> >>>>>>>>> be found (i.e nothing dodgy, im just looking for a new job).
>>>> >>>>>>>>> The
>>>> >>>>>>>>> word document has also been converted as pdf with the web
>>>> >>>>>>>>> site
>>>> >>>>>>>>> link. Both document links work fine outside of outlook
>>>> >>>>>>>>> express.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> The message will send (can see the progress bar), but it is
>>>> >>>>>>>>> not
>>>> >>>>>>>>> recieved and
>>>> >>>>>>>>> does not show up on the virgin server? I have sent this to my
>>>> >>>>>>>>> self
>>>> >>>>>>>>> to proove
>>>> >>>>>>>>> this. If i re-send the message without the word document,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> with the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> hyperlink
>>>> >>>>>>>>> removed from the message body and only the pdf attached, it
>>>> >>>>>>>>> works
>>>> >>>>>>>>> fine?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have enabled pop3 on the virgin server, used the recent
>>>> >>>>>>>>> virgin
>>>> >>>>>>>>> message fix
>>>> >>>>>>>>> tool and un-checked "do not allow attachements" within
>>>> >>>>>>>>> oultook and
>>>> >>>>>>>>> still it
>>>> >>>>>>>>> wont send the discussed message?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please can you help me to fix this as i really need to send
>>>> >>>>>>>>> out my
>>>> >>>>>>>>> CV with
>>>> >>>>>>>>> the web site link, thank you.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am using:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> @virgin.net (email account)
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Outlook express 6
>>>> >>>>>>>>> XP home service pack 2
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Word 2002
>>>> >>>>>>>>> adobe reader 9
>>>> >>>>>>>>> avg free 8.5
>>>> >>>>>>>>> windows firewall
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> .
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
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